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women in ministry
Samson:
Hello Bradigans,
I briefly mentioned in my Post the distinction between Diakonsos(Minister or Servant) in a Non-Technical sense, literally meaning one who is dusty from running in the service of others, Exp was Phoebe, Rom. 16:1 contrasted with Diakonoi(Deacon), minister in a technical sense as described at 1Tim. 3:1-10(Qualifications of a Deacon mentioned their, a Husband of one Wife, assisting the Elders(Presbyters) or Overseers(Episcopos), usually rendered "Bishop".
Your brother in Christ, Samson.
P.S. I think that in parts of Christendom, Diakonos and Diakonoi are used interchangeably, but their seems to be a distinction between the two.
Bill:
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--- Quote from: yayjesus04 on February 27, 2008, 04:35:38 PM ---you gave me scrpture on being a wife...not a pastor
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The scripture I gave you was on deacons and overseers aka pastors & preachers...a pastor or preacher is an overseer correct? And the scripture states that one is to be a husband to one wife. So in turn, they would conclude a man since woman do not have wives.
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Paul did not have a wife either. Would this conclude he is not an exceptable overseer?
Bill
zidore:
Having thought about this for some time myself,And seeing and hearing several females on tv and radio. I wondered too about women teaching. But I have come to learn and truly believe that God is incharge, his will be done in our lives. Search your heart, is it for others or, yourself. God will provide the answer for you. If it is his will for you, you will succeed, if not you will fail. Z
Phil3:10:
To all,
This is just my thinking and I feel there is much support in the Bible that a woman's teaching role is to be limited. The word Pastors is mentioned only one time in the New Testament. I personally feel there may be many Pastors within a single church. Senior Pastor seems to me an elevation that I don't feel is Biblical. Having come out of the church system I feel we need elders, deacons and overseers who are qualified to teach. However, their teaching should be more by example than enticing words. The whole pastor system is basically trading a priest for a pastor and all the ills incumbent with the denominational, institutional and organized church system. When I came out of the church system I had a pastor that I loved and I still do. However, he was so theologically attached to the church system and man made traditions that GOD dragged me out completely. I praise GOD for this. Now I am not in bondage to the Babylonian system and can worship in spirit and in truth.
Having digressed from my main point concerning women as pastors, I will try to wrap up my thoughts. I think we all are ministers both men and women. It is my personal belief that I find more women that are truly committed to Christ than I do men. They are perhaps better equipped than men to teach and certainly have a most important role to play in teaching their children and other women. My daughter and I often disagree over this subject and I respect her arguments. However, as GOD is over Christ and CHRIST is over his called out one's so is the husband over the wife. I think Paul, directed by GOD"S SPIRIT, had a purpose ordained by GOD to limit the role of women. I could argue my reasons for my thinking but doubt they would be constructive in this discussion.
Phil3:10
lilitalienboi16:
Either you believe the scriptures or you don't. The beast doesn't want to relinquish his power and this is a battle not just fought by the men, but by the women as well. What kind of independant women wants to be subject to her husband anyway? Subject.. what a nasty word right? I'm independant and free and i don't need him crys the beast!
God bless,
Alex
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