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This has to be said.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Hunter,
Perhaps they were not "useless" to others (besides yourself) that happen to be reading this thread.
Peace,
Joe
Sorin:
--- Quote from: Hunter on February 28, 2008, 08:20:10 AM ---I'm not denying that we are without free will, so those paragraphs were needless.
Next time, please do not bombard me with more than I care to read. I know you mean well, but it is nothing short of annoying, if not a little rude.
Anyway. We are supposed to concentrate on the fact that everything had/has/will have a purpose.
Great post, Martinez. :)
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So, who ever said that anything that passed was without substance and in vain? Certainly not L. Ray, nor anyone here-so where'd you get that from?
mharrell08:
I think what Hunter is trying to say is why all the fuss talking about something we do not have which also does not exist. He does not see the relevance between his question being answered and Martinez's response which are actually one and the same. He does not seem to understand. I'm not trying to talk bad about you Hunter but just posting this so no one else will be confused.
musicman:
--- Quote from: Hunter on February 28, 2008, 08:20:10 AM ---I'm not denying that we are without free will, so those paragraphs were needless.
Next time, please do not bombard me with more than I care to read. I know you mean well, but it is nothing short of annoying, if not a little rude.
Anyway. We are supposed to concentrate on the fact that everything had/has/will have a purpose.
Great post, Martinez. :)
--- End quote ---
That bit was a great reminder of what I already know but sometimes forget. The thing is, is that part of the "parable" of this life is in giving up what we think we have. The scriptures don't need to say "ye haven't any free will" for the teaching against it to be relevent. Which ever words man chooses for such a false belief is beside the point. Man thinks he has it. The scriptures attest to this. And the scriptures correct this false belief. The church teaches it and not even the atheists seem to understand how unscientific the belief is. By the way, there is also no Christian hell, no trinity, no fallen Lucifer Devil, and many other things that the church inists. Coming out of the church or world, requires learning the truth about these many false doctrines. Before one knows truth, he/she must unlearn false truth.
mharrell08:
Great reply musicman...I absolutely agree
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