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Struggling With Sin
Martinez:
Hey Sorin.
So what if you fail all the time, it's a necessary part of the process!
God has to get you to the place where you know with all certainty that you absolutely can do nothing without Him.
He gets us to struggle and struggle against sin and fail again and again so He can humble us.
If you were to just go straight out and conquer your sin, I guarantee that you would not be in the first Resurrection, because you would be so self righteous and so proud that you would be of no use to God.
God has to get you to that place where He utterly destroys the beast that is you.
Ironically it is the pride of the beast that comes before his fall, because it's just when He thinks that his grip on you is so unbreakable that that is when God comes in and destroys him!
Does that mean that We stop struggling against sin until that time comes then?
No because then it wouldn't work. we have to struggle against it.
I think of it this way.
The spiritual man is like the chicken and the flesh is like the egg. if you help a chicken out of it's egg so it doesn't struggle it actually weakens the chicken and so it is with us.
That's just the way I look at it I guess.
Martinez.
Deborah-Leigh:
I like the chicken and the egg Martinez....
Like the slug and the butterfly!
Peace to you brother
Arcturus :)
Kat:
Hi Brett,
When we are blind to the Truth and in "this body of death" as Paul said in Rom 7:24 "What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?"
The answer to that question is when we are bragged to Christ, we are rescued. No, this is not something we work on our own self, if is in God's time and will :)
--- Quote ---When we are dragged to Christ and we learn the Truth, then in our "inner being I delight in God's law." But we must be rescued from this "body of death."
--- End quote ---
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Matt:
Sorin,
You are not the only one ;)! Here is an email of Ray's I read when I get frustrated >:(.
--- Quote ---Ray
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In one of your emails you said that God expects us sin, which means he's not disappointed or angry with us?
The question here is: Everytime I sin, I ask forgiveness and repent. I feel that it's not working (repenting, asking forgiveness, etc). Am I doing something wrong?
[Ray Replies]
Dear Jeff:
Unfortunately, there is not a magic bullet that will instantly clean us of all sin and bad habits. Even the physical analogies of this spiritual washing, purging, and cleaning of our carnality, indicate that time is required. It takes time to wash clothing, it takes time to purify gold and silver in a furnace, etc.
The penalty of sin issue can be settled in your heart and mind the instant you come to realize that Jesus PAID IN FULL the penalty for your sins and all the sin of the world. However, paying the penalty for sin does not instantly PURGE AND WASH US CLEAN OF SIN. The penalty is paid, but the condition lingers.
The more you SEE your sins and shortcomings, the more you will DESIRE to rid yourself of these things. We are crucified WITH CHRIST, yet we live, but the life we live is one of OVERCOMING THE SINS FOR WHICH WE AND CHRIST DIED FOR.
We have been HAND-PICKED by God to be in His kingdom. Now we must go through the training course that He has set before us. Jesus said that He overcame THE WORLD. We too are to overcome THE WORLD. It's a HUGE task, that requires the power of SPIRIT to accomplish.
Don't become discouraged in well-doing. You will triumph in Christ if you have His spirit working in you. God will even give you the DESIRE to want to do right and be right.
This life is a life of SPIRITUAL WARFARE. There will be many battles before the final victory. So we must endure and we must overcome. For those whom God has chosen, this will be accomplished!
God be with you,
Ray
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Blessings,
Matt :)
Sorin:
Thank you all for your replies. In Romans 6 it sounds like Paul is implying that we can be sinless in this age....? I'm not sure if that's what he means by 'being dead to sin', but I don't think it's possible for any mere mortal such as ourselves to be completely sinless in this age.
And even if it were possible, per se... it wouldn't be of ourselves, but of God, with the help of the Holy Spirit.
What are your thoughts on this?
-Sorin
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