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Raising the Temple
Evan600:
Thank you all for your replies. I do however need some more clairification and understanding, Lord willing.
I think that the closest thing that I'm seeing right now is from jerreye's post from John 14:10. That Jesus is in the Father and the Father is in Him.
There's not really a question that it was the Father the raised Him. It does seem that this verse (John 2:19) is condradicting many others. Perhaps Ray has some time to answer this?
Phil3:10:
Jason,
AS Ray would say, JESUS and the FATHER are ONE (One SPIRIT). I don't think JESUS could sin because HE and the Father are one and GOD would not let HIM sin in the flesh. The truth that JESUS for 33 plus years did not sin in human form is mind-boggling to me. JESUS was both carnal and divine while on this earth but HE was always in the FATHER and the FATHER in HIM. No relationship akin to this exists and this is why both JESUS and the FATHER are all in all.
GOD gives to HIS elect HIS Holy Spirit but this is in no way a parallel with JESUS and the FATHER. JESUS and the FATHER think, act and exist as one SPIRIT. This is perfection and without comparison. The perfect relationship exists between the perfect GOD"S as this is what the FATHER desires. No jealously, no power grab, no Number 1. Just to think this relationship will exist through out all one of these days is beyond my feeble comprehension.
This is just my humble opinion and I doubt that it has done much to answer your question.
Phil3:10
Little Joe:
--- Quote from: Phil3:10 on March 23, 2008, 11:07:40 AM ---GOD gives to HIS elect HIS Holy Spirit but this is in no way a parallel with JESUS and the FATHER. JESUS and the FATHER think, act and exist as one SPIRIT. This is perfection and without comparison. The perfect relationship exists between the perfect GOD"S as this is what the FATHER desires. No jealously, no power grab, no Number 1. Just to think this relationship will exist through out all one of these days is beyond my feeble comprehension.
This is just my humble opinion and I doubt that it has done much to answer your question.
Phil3:10
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That is beautiful! That blesses me!
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Jason on March 23, 2008, 09:45:26 AM ---Thank you all for your replies. I do however need some more clairification and understanding, Lord willing.
I think that the closest thing that I'm seeing right now is from jerreye's post from John 14:10. That Jesus is in the Father and the Father is in Him.
There's not really a question that it was the Father the raised Him. It does seem that this verse (John 2:19) is condradicting many others. Perhaps Ray has some time to answer this?
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You know what it hit me last night jason while i was trying to sleep. It's not that Jesus raised Himself but that because Jesus is God [one with the Father] that since the Father raised Him up, so did He raise Himself but not literaly.
Also we might be looking at a bad translation.. lawl..
bobf:
Hi Jason,
Maybe Jesus was speaking of more than just His resurrection. Maybe these false witnesses actually heard part of it right - that Jesus would raise up another temple "made without hands" i.e. His body, His church.
Mark 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands. 59 But neither so did their witness agree together.
We are the temple "made without hands"
Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.
Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet. 49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1 Corinthaisn 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
And Christ is the One raising this temple.
Hebrews 3:3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house. 4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God. 5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; 6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
God bless,
Bob
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