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lilitalienboi16:
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--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on March 24, 2008, 12:02:01 AM ---I edited my post because it might have come off wrong.
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Dear Sorin i must say i am surprised that you would allow pagan superstitions to cause you doubt
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Hi Alex,
How have I 'allowed pagan superstitions to cause me doubt'?
--- Quote ---and that you do not understand Jesus's Words in the verse you quoted.
God be with you,
Alex
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What makes you think I don't understand Jesus' words in the verse I quoted?
Peace,
Sorin
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The very fact that you would consider the possibility of something insane occuring on 2012 leads me to believe that these pagan superstitions have caused you doubt in the fact that Christ said NO MAN knows the hour or day, that includes the mayans and the year 2012.
Also you said this;
"It's been over two-thousand years, that generation is long gone, and those things have not happened."
To that you are wrong. That generation is not long gone and those things are happening. Christ Words are 100% true, you just don't understand what He was saying.
So your first post coupled with this rescent statement of this generation being lone gone and nothing haveing happened furthermore suggests me to believe that you do indeed, doubt Christ's Words.
John 6:63 "My Words they are SPIRIT and THEY ARE LIFE."
Spirit...
God be with you,
Alex
Sorin:
The very fact that you would consider the possibility of something insane occuring on 2012
Who said anything about 'something insane occuring on 2012'?
I said: "The world could end on that date; I wouldn't be so sure as to say that it absolutely won't."
How is the world ending "something insane"? Doesn't even The Bible mention that it will in fact end?
leads me to believe that these pagan superstitions have caused you doubt in the fact that Christ said NO MAN knows the hour or day, that includes the mayans and the year 2012.
Caused me doubt about what? And since NO MAN knows the hour or day, than how can ANY MAN know with absolute certainty that that is not the day?
Also you said this;
"It's been over two-thousand years, that generation is long gone, and those things have not happened."
To that you are wrong. That generation is not long gone and those things are happening. Christ Words are 100% true, you just don't understand what He was saying.
I'm not wrong about anything; I was trying to prove a point. Now it seems I will have to prove that point to you as well.
Stevernator quoted those verses above, about how no man knows the hour or day and so forth, and therefore, Dec 21st 2012 can't be the date. So I responded with Mark 13:30 to show, that Jesus also said that that generation will not pass away, yet it obviously did. But therein lies my point, Mark 13:30 is not to be taken literally, as you even acknowledged, His words are Spirit.
So what makes you think you can take Mark 13:32-37 literally, I mean absolutely literally, but when it comes to Mark 13:30 you know that it is not to be taken literally? My point was when you take it literally, there's a problem, but some people like to jump to conclusions, about what I believe or disbelieve, know or don't know.
So your first post coupled with this rescent statement of this generation being lone gone and nothing haveing happened furthermore suggests me to believe that you do indeed, doubt Christ's Words.
John 6:63 "My Words they are SPIRIT and THEY ARE LIFE."
Spirit...
Again, all this could have been avoided if somebody would've just responded to my second post with 'that's not to be taken literally"... and I would have said, YEAH I KNOW, and what makes you think Mark 13: 32-37 is to be taken literally?
Robin:
Here are a few other emails I found.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4095.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2073.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2857.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2572.0.html
lilitalienboi16:
I see now we had a big mis understanding. I believe the way you worded you're second post was very confuseing. When you said the generation had passed, i didn't see it as such. So i responded promptly. I wish you would have clarified that but none the less, no harm done.
For those who don't understand how it is that the generation has not passed. I have this to clarify that.
Matt 1:17 "So all the generations from Abraham to David are FOURTEEN generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are FOURTEEN generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon into CHRIST are FOURTEEN generations."
Take out your bible and read the names. You will find that we should end up with 42 generations with Christ being the 42nd name on the list.
However what do you find? You find that He isn't.Christ is infact number 41.
There is one generation missing. So who is number 42?
Who is THIS generation of mark 13:30?
Who are Christ's decendents and bare His name?
Isaiah 53;8-10 "He was taken from prison and from judgment: and WHO SHALL DECLARE HIS GENERATION? for He was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was He stricken. And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death; because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, He hath put Him to grief, when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, HE SHALL SEE HIS SEED, HE SHALL PROLONG HIS DAYS, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand."
Psalm22:30-31 ''A seed shall serve Him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for A GENERATION. They shall come, and shall DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS unto a people that shall be born, that He hath done this."
I Peter 2:9 "BUT YE ARE A CHOSEN GENERATION, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
Rev.11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of OUR LORD AND OF HIS CHRIST; and He shall reign forever and ever."
So we know that Jesus is Lord. Who is His Christ?
Psalms 2 "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against His anointed (Christ), saying, Let us break THEIR bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my HOLY HILL OF ZION. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, THOU ART MY SON: this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. THOU SHALT BREAK THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON: THOU SHALT DASH THEM IN PIECES LIKE A POTTER'S VESSEL."
The annointed, the overcomer,the few,the chosen, the body OF CHRIST----this is the 42nd generation and this IS that GENERATION that SHALL NOT PASS, UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULLFILLED.
Mark 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
We are that generation.
In Christ,
Alex
Truth101:
lilitalienboi16,
Awsome clarification on that. God bless you and continue to feed you.
Dave
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