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Sorin:

--- Quote from: Kent on April 14, 2008, 07:21:07 AM ---That displays a principle I have noticed about this particular kind of atheist: They attack God with such a fervency that you would swear that they believed in Him.

If there is no God, why attack Him and those that believe? Why bother? Imagine wasting all of that energy hating something that they dont even acknowledge exists.

It's like me declaring war on the tooth fairy, writing a book about it, going on radio and TV, being a Mr Big Shot VIP in the anti-tooth fairy movement; all  because some young kids believe in it.



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If there is no God, why attack Him and those that believe? Why bother? I'll tell you why they bother; because Atheists believe in Science, education, and rational thinking. Thus they view 'God believers' as irrational and delusional, and it's all due to their belief in "God". They want a world in which people believe only in things that are proven, and rational.

Also, what you said about the tooth fairy is a bad comparison. Firstly, because those are kids, and secondly; you are just putting yourself down, by comparing your beliefs to those of kids'. A better comparison would be if grown men still believed in the Tooth Fairy, wouldn't you find that stupid and irrational? Now, when you look at it from that point of view, you are more in line with the way Atheists view religious people. 

indianabob:
Gentle folks of the forum,

In my youth I was one to observe the mistakes of others and comment upon them in order to make myself feel better.
When a person is picked upon in school or the play yard, it is tempting to say things such as you're MORE stupid or you're ugly etc.
I think when people observe the hypocrisy of their Christian neighbors, it is easy denigrate their beliefs as dumb and stupid and of no practical value.  It is important to remember that the atheist are just as deceived as the nominal Christian or the nominal Jew who has never studied the teachings of their own faith or cracked open a Bible.  What the atheist may be saying is that Christians they are familiar with are believing in fairy tales very similar to the tooth fairy and they, the atheist, aren't falling for it.

How many Christians believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead and yet their church teaches that he spent the three days in the "hell" teaching sinners of the gospel?  They learn that sinners who drink alcohol to excess are going to burn in "hell" until they attend the funeral service to discover that the same drunk has been forgiven by the pastor and is now looking down from heaven upon the service in his honor.

It may be that we need to think of atheist in the same forgiving manner that we do deceived Christians. 
Some of them at least are being intellectually honest in their observations of Christian conduct and beliefs.

Just something to consider.

Indianabob

Kent:

--- Quote ---If there is no God, why attack Him and those that believe? Why bother? I'll tell you why they bother; because Atheists believe in Science, education, and rational thinking. Thus they view 'God believers' as irrational and delusional, and it's all due to their belief in "God". They want a world in which people believe only in things that are proven, and rational.
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I also believe in science, education, and rational thinking. But I am not an atheist.
If they dont want to acknowledge that Christians aren't irrational or delusional, there is nothing I can say to them to change their minds, because their minds are already made up.

What makes them think they can change another persons beliefs and worldview, any more than you or I can? In a way, it is like finding Rays' site. The truths expressed resonated with me. I found what I was looking for after many false starts and a lot of errors. But if someone sent me a link, and I wasn't ready for it, I wouldn't have bothered reading anything.


--- Quote ---Also, what you said about the tooth fairy is a bad comparison. Firstly, because those are kids, and secondly; you are just putting yourself down, by comparing your beliefs to those of kids'.
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I am not putting myself down, I just say what this kind of atheists would say about me. To them, I am like a kid, a rather stupid kid at that. And, I dont care. It's all a part of the persecution we all face. I wont change to make myself acceptable to them, and I bet no one here would do that either.

You know what scripture says about them, and what God thinks of their "philosophies".

chav:
Hi


--- Quote ---That displays a principle I have noticed about this particular kind of atheist: They attack God with such a fervency that you would swear that they believed in Him.
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I have often had that thought myself about Dawkins.

Dawkins is revered here in the UK ,he has a free reign with the BBC and the media , and is dubbed as the nation's  'favorite atheist'. Usually he is wheeled out when there is some controversy regarding creation.When he is on TV or the radio ,he is very rarely pitted against any scientist , but usually ends up debating with some hapless cleric who hasn't a clue.

It makes absolute sense if evolution was true ,to evolve a species that didn't have the ability to have differing ideas thoughts and philosophies. what with all the wars and conflict going on ,one would have thought any selfish gene would have sorted that out first if the species is to survive.

It's a good question , and one I have often pondered on myself.

Dave UK

Kent:
Yes.

 I'd think that if there was evolution, we'd finally have the ability to get along after all these millions of years. But we are as deadly as ever, with just a thin veneer of civilization that is easily removed at the drop of a hat  >:( or for no real reason at all.

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