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lorrie:
Yes-- Martinez i do know what you mean- i have had peaple say to me they are christian just to get me to let my guard down.
So to me a name is important,it says who we are in relation to the kingdom of our Lord.Jesus called Peter 'a little rock' for a reason.
In mathew 28-18 Jesus tells the disciples to make disciples in all nations-the name 'christian was given by man-i was not born a christian. I choose to be a disciple and walk with our Lord and Father each new day.Thanks for the wonderfull discussion!Love you guys!

Bradigans:

--- Quote from: Roy Coates on May 08, 2008, 10:24:23 PM ---Well said IndianaBob. I am in about the same spot. I started learning with Ray at the same time I enrolled in Bible college and joined a small local church. The truths I share, do for the most part get heard. However I think it(truth) falls on deaf ears.

I got fed at the local church for a while. It may have been milk, but that is what I needed at the time. I pray that it was spoiled milk. Now as I grow from the in depth studying I have been doing. I feed my family and any who will listen with the Spiritual Understanding that the Holy Spirit imparts to me.

I now serve those Christians at the local church, who took in this lost and starving soul. I plow the snow and mow the lawn, volunteer in the nursery, junior church, fund raisers and usher. They loved me and helped me the best way they knew how. It won't be too long until I am needed else where.

I guess what I am trying to say is; God used those Christians to help this son of God grow up. They can't help it that they are blind. I don't hold that against them. It is all a part of the Divine Plan of God the Father



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Amen!!! alleluia!!!

Bradigans:

--- Quote from: kweli on May 09, 2008, 03:52:32 AM ---Thanks greatly for the effort Kat. It really helped.

I dont mean to drag this on, but based on the topic itself, is being a Christian bad? I mean if Peter and Paul recognized it as a way of identifying Christ's followers then maybe we should think more about it. I understand why we wouldnt want to be 'associated' with modern day christians, but the word and it's meaning (which fits more with us here) were not found in some dictionary or heretic's documentation, but in the Scriptures.

I'm not so sure about neglecting the use of the word if it is Scriptural. I understand that Jesus was physically circumcised so that I dont have to be under that law to stand approved but, Scriptural Christians are us, those who carry their cross and follow Jesus. It is great to have a word that recognizes this tough task of following Jesus, isnt it?

I really need to get to the meat of this one...

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Is the word christian found anywhere else beside in the book of Acts?

 - Acts 11:26 - And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Bradigans:

--- Quote from: Roy Coates on May 08, 2008, 09:45:21 AM ---I certainly do not care to be a part of any division. Better known as "denomination" these days even nondenominational is a denomination. We know that main stream Christendom is full of men's doctrine, many evils and false teachings. I must add that God used this system that we are being called out of to draw me back to Christ. However, in my study I quickly stalled in my maturing process and started searching for more. I thank God every day for Christendom, He designed it and He used it to draw me to him. I am gaining, growing in Christ. I gained some valuable experience in Christendom, we all did. I believe that there is no waste in Gods economy

And yes dogcombat I find comfort in the term disciple too.

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Amen!!!

Roy Coates:
Bible Explorer search results for: christian
Depending on the translation, but Christian is used many times. KJV I see nine times.
 
ASV  Ac 26:28
Festus charges him with insanity, to which he answers quietly 28 And Agrippa said unto Paul, With but little persuasion thou wouldest fain make me a Christian.
 
ASV  1Co 5:7
The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences  
ASV  1Co 8:1
The mature Christian knows that idols have no power The mature Christian knows that idols have no power  
ASV  Col 2:1
He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith  
ASV  Phm 1:8
whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love  
ASV  Heb 13:1
The spirit of Christian love The spirit of Christian love  
ASV  Jas 2:1
The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich  
ASV  1Pe 4:16
Peter warns them of trials to come 16 but if a man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this name.
 
ASV  2Jn 1:1
John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief  
 KJV  Ac 26:28
Festus charges him with insanity, to which he answers quietly 28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
 
KJV  1Co 5:7
The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences  
KJV  1Co 8:1
The mature Christian knows that idols have no power The mature Christian knows that idols have no power  
KJV  Col 2:1
He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith  
KJV  Phm 1:8
whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love  
KJV  Heb 13:1
The spirit of Christian love The spirit of Christian love  
KJV  Jas 2:1
The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich  
KJV  1Pe 4:16
Peter warns them of trials to come 16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
 
KJV  2Jn 1:1
John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief  
 
WEY  Preface to the First Edition It is not the present Translator's ambition to supplant the Versions already in general use, to which their intrinsic merit or long familiarity or both have caused all Christian minds so lovingly to cling.
WEY  Matthew Early Christian writers add little to our knowledge of him, but his life seems to have been quiet and somewhat ascetic.
WEY  Ac 16:1
Chapter 16 1 He also came to Derbe and to Lystra. At Lystra he found a disciple, Timothy by name—the son of a Christian Jewess, though he had a Greek father.
 
WEY  Ac 26:28
Chapter 26 28 Agrippa answered, "In brief, you are doing your best to persuade me to become a Christian."
 
WEY  Ro 9:1
Chapter 9 - The Unbelief of the Jews 1 I am telling you the truth as a Christian man—it is no falsehood, for my conscience enlightened, as it is, by the Holy Spirit adds its testimony to mine—
 
WEY  Ro 15:2
Chapter 15 2 Let each of us endeavour to please his fellow Christian, aiming at a blessing calculated to build him up.
 
WEY  Ro 15:14
Personal Explanations 14 But as to you, brethren, I am convinced— yes, I Paul am convinced—that, even apart from my teaching, you are already full of goodness of heart, and enriched with complete Christian knowledge, and are also competent to instruct one another.
 
WEY  Ro 16:2
Chapter 16 - Conclusion 2 that you may receive her as a fellow Christian in a manner worthy of God's people, and may assist her in any matter in which she may need help. For she has indeed been a kind friend to many, including myself.
 
WEY  Ro 16:12
Chapter 16 - Conclusion 12 Greetings to those Christian workers, Tryphaena and Tryphosa; also to dear Persis, who has laboured strenuously in the Lord's work.
 
WEY  Ro 16:22
Chapter 16 - Conclusion 22 I, Tertius, who write this letter, send you Christian greetings.
 
WEY  1Co 4:17
Chapter 4 17 For this reason I have sent Timothy to you. Spiritually he is my dearly-loved and faithful child. He will remind you of my habits as a Christian teacher—the manner in which I teach everywhere in every Church.
 
WEY  1Co 7:14
Chapter 7 - The Subject of Marriage 14 For, in such cases, the unbelieving husband has become—and is—holy through union with a Christian woman, and the unbelieving wife is holy through union with a Christian brother. Otherwise your children would be unholy, but in reality they have a place among God's people.
 
WEY  1Co 7:15
Chapter 7 - The Subject of Marriage 15 If, however, the unbeliever is determined to leave, let him or her do so. Under such circumstances the Christian man or woman is no slave; God has called us to live lives of peace.
 
WEY  1Co 7:22
Chapter 7 - The Subject of Marriage 22 For a Christian, if he was a slave when called, is the Lord's freed man, and in the same way a free man, if called, becomes the slave of Christ.
 
WEY  1Co 7:39
Chapter 7 - The Subject of Marriage 39 A woman is bound to her husband during the whole period that he lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to marry whom she will, provided that he is a Christian.
 
WEY  1Co 9:2
Chapter 9 2 If to other men I am not an Apostle, yet at any rate I am one to you; for your very existence as a Christian Church is the seal of my Apostleship.
 
WEY  1Co 9:5
Chapter 9 5 Have we not a right to take with us on our journeys a Christian sister as our wife, as the rest of the Apostles do—and the Lord's brothers and Peter?
 
WEY  1Co 9:18
Chapter 9 18 What are my wages then? The very fact that the Good News which I preach will cost my hearers nothing, so that I cannot be charged with abuse of my privileges as a Christian preacher.
 
WEY  1Co 11:17
Matters Relating to Christian Worship Matters Relating to Christian Worship  
WEY  1Co 16:19
Personal Matters, and Farewell 19 The Churches in the province of Asia send you greetings; and Aquila and Prisca, in hearty Christian love, do the same, together with the Church which meets at their house.
 
WEY  2Co 12:2
Chapter 12 2 I know a Christian man who fourteen years ago— whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know; God knows—was caught up (this man of whom I am speaking) even to the highest Heaven.
 
WEY  Galatians But his earnest insistence upon the "fruit borne by the Spirit" proves that his ideal of practical holiness was rather strengthened than impaired by his plea for Faith as the mainspring of Christian life.
WEY  Gal 1:22
Paul Vindicates His Apostolic Authority 22 But to the Christian Churches in Judaea I was personally unknown.
 
WEY  Gal 3:1
Chapter 3 - The Jewish Law Far Inferior to the Christian Faith Chapter 3 The Jewish Law Far Inferior to the Christian Faith  
WEY  Gal 6:6
Chapter 6 6 But let those who receive instruction in Christian truth share with their instructors all temporal blessings.
 
WEY  Eph 4:21
Chapter 4 21 if at least you have heard His voice and in Him have been taught—and this is true Christian teaching—
 
WEY  Eph 6:1
Chapter 6 1 Children, be obedient to your parents as a Christian duty, for it is a duty.
 
WEY  Eph 6:4
Chapter 6 4 And you, fathers, do not irritate your children, but bring them up tenderly with true Christian training and advice.
 
WEY  Php 1:8
Chapter 1 8 For God is my witness how I yearn over all of you with tender Christian affection.
 
WEY  Php 2:29
Chapter 2 29 Receive him therefore with heartfelt Christian joy, and hold in honour men like him;
 
WEY  Php 4:21
Chapter 4 21 My Christian greetings to every one of God's people. The brethren who are with me send their greetings.
 
WEY  Col 2:11
Chapter 2 11 In Him also you were circumcised with a circumcision not performed by hand, when you threw off your sinful nature in true Christian circumcision;
 
WEY  Col 4:15
Chapter 4 15 Christian greetings to the brethren at Laodicea, especially to Nymphas, and to the Church that meets at their house.
 
WEY  1Th 4:6
Chapter 4 - Practical Exhortations 6 and that in this matter there be no encroaching on the rights of a brother Christian and no overreaching him. For the Lord is an avenger in all such cases, as we have already taught you and solemnly warned you.
 
WEY  1Th 5:12
Conclusion 12 Now we beg you, brethren, to show respect for those who labour among you and are your leaders in Christian work, and are your advisers;
 
WEY  1 Timothy There has never been any real doubt among Christian people as to the authorship of the three "pastoral" Letters.
WEY  1Ti 6:1
Chapter 6 1 Let all who are under the yoke of slavery hold their own masters to be deserving of honour, so that the name of God and the Christian teaching may not be spoken against.
 
WEY  Tit 2:5
Chapter 2 5 industrious in their homes, kind, submissive to their husbands, so that the Christian teaching may not be exposed to reproach.
 
WEY  Phm 1:16
Chapter 1 16 no longer as a slave, but as something better than a slave—a brother peculiarly dear to me, and even dearer to you, both as a servant and as a fellow Christian.
 
WEY  Hebrews The unquestionably divine origin of the Jewish dispensation is made use of for laying emphasis upon the infinitely superior glory of the Christian order.
WEY  James The Letter may have been a Jewish one, addressed to the Christian converts from Judaism who were scattered abroad, within or beyond the limits of the Roman Empire. ... ' But its practical ideal assumes the same basis of Christian faith as is found in the Letters of Paul.
WEY  Jas 2:15
Chapter 2 15 Suppose a Christian brother or sister is poorly clad or lacks daily food,
 
WEY  1Pe 3:16
Chapter 3 16 Yet argue modestly and cautiously, keeping your consciences free from guilt, so that, when you are spoken against, those who slander your good Christian lives may be put to shame.
 
WEY  1Pe 4:16
Chapter 4 16 If, however, any one suffers because he is a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God for being permitted to bear that name.
 
WEY  2Jn 1:4
Chapter 1 4 It is an intense joy to me to have found some of your children living true Christian lives, in obedience to the command which we have received from the Father.
 
WEY  Revelation Many scholars, however, regard the book as a document of Nero's time carefully incorporated in one written about 90 A.D.: "a Jewish Apocalypse in a Christian framework;" both perhaps being by the same author.
YLT  Ac 26:28
Festus charges him with insanity, to which he answers quietly 28 And Agrippa said unto Paul, `In a little thou dost persuade me to become a Christian!'
 
YLT  1Co 5:7
The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences The Christian church must be purged of the contamination of sinners, and separated from pagan influences  
YLT  1Co 8:1
The mature Christian knows that idols have no power The mature Christian knows that idols have no power  
YLT  Col 2:1
He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith He exhorts them to stand firm in the Christian faith  
YLT  Phm 1:8
whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love whom he asks to forgive his servant Onesimus, and to receive him again in Christian love  
YLT  Heb 13:1
The spirit of Christian love The spirit of Christian love  
YLT  Jas 2:1
The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich The true Christian does not show partiality to the rich  
YLT  1Pe 4:16
Peter warns them of trials to come 16 and if as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; and let him glorify God in this respect;
 
YLT  2Jn 1:1
John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief John exhorts an honorable matron and her children to persevere in Christian love and belief  

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