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Being a Christian is bad?
Deborah-Leigh:
I see the PM lines as a privileged line of communication not a line of contention and debate. Likewise I shall withdraw from this thread. My comments stand. I shall not discuss my deeper insights into the matters you raise.
Peace to you
Arcturus.
Roy Monis:
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--- Quote from: Arcturus on May 10, 2008, 10:32:32 AM ---You say titles are neither good or bad. Have words got no meaning?
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I said "the title of being a "Christian is neither good nor bad. Just like the title Jew is neither good nor bad." I did not say all titles are neither good or bad.
--- Quote from: Arcturus on May 10, 2008, 10:32:32 AM ---The Elect have to come out of Christianity just as "the way" came out of Judaism and as Eve came out of Adam, similarly the elect will come out of Christianity
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Paul (who could very well be of the Elect) came out of Babylon, which is all the worldly religions/governments including Judaism & Christianity. Did he ever stop calling himself a Jew?
--- Quote from: Arcturus on May 10, 2008, 10:32:32 AM ---Being called a Christian is an insult
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To you maybe, but not to all. The title bears nothing to me.
Just look at our usernames next to our posts. "Member of the body of Christ" There are tons of Babylon denominations with that title. Would I get all hot and bothered if someone "assumed" (which is what this thread is really all about: one assuming the title of Christian means a member of Babylon) that I was a member of that Babylonian congregation? NO, because I know the truth and when you know the truth, you are set free.
Arcturus,
Honestly I respect your opinion and truly love to read your past posts because of their wonderful insight. I apologize if you believe I have misrepresented your comments but your comments speak for themselves. If you do not agree, let us just continue on in love (or even a PM if you would like). This is really an endless religious debate that is not edifying anyone at this point. Once again, I apologize if I have offended you.
Marques
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Hi! Marques
I regret to say brother that discussions on this issue will get you nowhere other than getting the PMs blocked.
My opinion, for what it is, is just my opinion and I will stick by it. I believe that in accordance with God's Master Plan from the very beginning, the Church that Jesus Christ founded has become corrupt in keeping with that plan. This is the platform from which He can now "call out" those of us whom He has preserved for Himself from the very beginning in accordance with that original Master Plan. Nothing is out of place everything is going perfectly as He intended.
The word Christian first appeared at Antioch and all belonging to that Church were called Christians. That title has come down through the centuries to us today. But now is the time, now is the acceptable hour for His chosen to come out of her. We are just a small part of those yet to answer His call and we are still Christian but there is another command in there which seems to be getting overlooked "AND BE SEPARATE". Now to me to be separate means just one thing and that is to completely alienate oneself from the original. We are God's Chosen/elect and cannot be confused with the corrupt.
"Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?" (1Cor.6:14,15)
God is all wise, He knows that a good fruit left in a barrel of rotten fruit won't make the rotten into good but the good will go rotten, so in His Wisdom He calls us out. Now that we are completely separate we of necessity need an identity. Still a Christian (believer in Christ) but now a New Christian ; a true better under a new name " The Body Of Christ". Just my humble opinion.
God bless
Love in Christ Jesus
Roy
lorrie:
;D
Roy Coates:
Greek Strong's Number: 5546
Greek Word: Χριστιανός
Transliteration: Christianos
Phonetic Pronunciation:khris-tee-an-os'
Root: from <G5547>
Cross Reference: TDNT - 9:493,1322
Part of Speech: n pr m
Vine's Words: Christian
Usage Notes:
English Words used in KJV:
Christian 3
[Total Count: 3]
from <G5547> (Christos); a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ :- Christian.
—Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary
Roy Coates:
16 Yet <G1161> if <G1487> any man suffer as <G5613> a Christian <G5546>, let him <G153> <G0> not <G3361> be ashamed <G153>; but <G1161> let him glorify <G1392> God <G2316> on <G1722> this <G5129> behalf <G3313>.
1 Peter 4:16 (KJV)
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