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Mother's Day and Other Holidays
musicman:
Folks, what ever you do, don't eat with forks and knives. Those are man made. Don't where deoderant, use soap or drive a car. If the bible does not tell you to do it, then it must be silly and pointless. Afterall, businesses thrive by man made holidays. Let's not allow that to happen, even when the name of god is not exploited on such occassions (Mother's Day?).
What I'm saying is, call your mother on mother's day!!
UncleBeau:
I think the point has been very obnoxiously missed. One of the reasons that christians will defend their hell doctrine to the very end is that it gives them an exclusivity, a reason to feel more special than others. therefore, holidays are very easy for them to observe. I wanted you to see the similarities, but so far, I'm getting responses that are barely even related to the subject. Musicman, these are about spiritual issues, not soap and silverware. But who would believe the Scriptures that going back to exclusive special days keep you in bondage? This is not one of those tooth-and-nail issues, but some will mock the truth. Some already have. Do you really think that this thread is supposed to be about your relationship between you and your mother? BY NO MEANS! I love my mother every day, just like everyone reading this......
You know, it's funny how we're still in the mode to believe only certain things that we see, even after we break away from the church of the world. Think about it. Why was Paul so upset with his comments? why was he afraid?! Do you ask such things, or is it silly on your end? There are more spiritual issues with these things than you might think. I just thought I would give something in my perspective, but it seems stupid to argue with warnings about forks and knives.
-Beau
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: UncleBeau on May 14, 2008, 10:30:10 AM ---I think the point has been very obnoxiously missed. One of the reasons that christians will defend their hell doctrine to the very end is that it gives them an exclusivity, a reason to feel more special than others. therefore, holidays are very easy for them to observe. I wanted you to see the similarities, but so far, I'm getting responses that are barely even related to the subject. Musicman, these are about spiritual issues, not soap and silverware. But who would believe the Scriptures that going back to exclusive special days keep you in bondage? This is not one of those tooth-and-nail issues, but some will mock the truth. Some already have. Do you really think that this thread is supposed to be about your relationship between you and your mother? BY NO MEANS! I love my mother every day, just like everyone reading this......
You know, it's funny how we're still in the mode to believe only certain things that we see, even after we break away from the church of the world. Think about it. Why was Paul so upset with his comments? why was he afraid?! Do you ask such things, or is it silly on your end? There are more spiritual issues with these things than you might think. I just thought I would give something in my perspective, but it seems stupid to argue with warnings about forks and knives.
-Beau
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Hello Beau,
After re-reading your original post, I believe I understood perfectly your comments. Was the email that I referred from Ray not sufficient? The line "unto the pure, all things are pure" comes from Titus 1:15 and not Ray's personal words if you were wondering.
Anyone who is motherless and has that sense of loss will feel guilt/remorseful at the sight of a mother with her children on any day of the week. And why does this person feel guilt (which is of the carnal mind by the way)? Because they do not believe that "New Jerusalem which is above, is the mother to us all" Gal. 4:26. The carnal mind will always find things in the world to put them into emotional bondage. Anyone who is IN Christ and Christ IN them will not have this sense of remorse because they know who their "heavenly" mother is: NEW JERUSALEM! ;D
I hope this helps with your perspective.
Marques
KristaD:
I see what you are saying Beau and I'm truly sorry if my post was one that you felt misunderstood you. I do believe, however, that God calls us all for different things at different times. For you, He has opened your eyes and laid on your heart that the observances of such days are not right; likewise He has shown me things about birth and child rearing that other people don't believe at all but those things are for me and me family as the holiday thing is for yours (for right now). We are not suposed to be stumbling blocks for each other and we can't ask others to see what we see when we see it, He is working it out in the perfect order for all of us in His good time. I thank you for sharing what He's put in you about those days and maybe those words will come back to some of us at a later time if it's something God must purge out of us, but I don't believe that we all must be purged of the same things as we are different and see things differently so therefore what may be wrong for one man can be ok for another b/c his heart is different.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: KristaD on May 14, 2008, 11:58:54 AM ---I see what you are saying Beau and I'm truly sorry if my post was one that you felt misunderstood you. I do believe, however, that God calls us all for different things at different times. For you, He has opened your eyes and laid on your heart that the observances of such days are not right; likewise He has shown me things about birth and child rearing that other people don't believe at all but those things are for me and me family as the holiday thing is for yours (for right now). We are not suposed to be stumbling blocks for each other and we can't ask others to see what we see when we see it, He is working it out in the perfect order for all of us in His good time. I thank you for sharing what He's put in you about those days and maybe those words will come back to some of us at a later time if it's something God must purge out of us, but I don't believe that we all must be purged of the same things as we are different and see things differently so therefore what may be wrong for one man can be ok for another b/c his heart is different.
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Great, great comments Krista...I totally agree.
Marques
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