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Paul

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The serpent's seed?
« on: May 16, 2008, 06:32:53 AM »

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15)

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kweli

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM »

Hi Paul

I'm doing this to avoid repeating what may have been said previously or possibly perverting it too. Here's a thread that says it all. I hope you find what you are looking for in there.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=5306.15

Also, it will help you greatly if you could do a search on any topic you wish to know of by typing the word/phrase followed by :bible-truths.com in the google search bar

Like so ==> serpent's seed:bible-truths.com

This has helpful to me in a big way

All Glory to Him
 
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Paul

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 12:25:38 PM »

I did search and did come across that and read it. It doesn't explain what Satan's seed is. It mentions how in John 8:44, Jesus says "Ye are of your father the Devil..." to some people, but I need some elaboration. Thanks.
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Kat

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 01:02:20 PM »

Hi Paul,

I found this in the transcript 'What Is The Gospel Of The Kingdom?'

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6142.0.html ----------

                                THERE ARE TWO SEEDS

Now letís go back and get a little more prospective on everything.
There are two seeds on the earth.  In Genesis 3 we read about the seed of the serpent (the seed of Satan) and the seed of the woman, there are the two seeds.

Now we are going to see the progression of the gospel.  In Genesis 3;

Gen 3:15  And I will put enmity between you (serpent) and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He (it) will bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.

This is talking about something that is going to come and bruise - the word is actually closer to crush than bruise, in both places.

So we have this promise of a Seed back in the garden, the Seed of the woman.  Now we come a few generations down the road and God says to Abraham.

Gen 22:18  And in your Seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.

We want to follow the progression of the seed, so look at Galatians 3.

Gal 3:16  And to Abraham and to his Seed the promises were spoken.  It does not say, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, "And to your Seed," which is Christ.

So we see just read that in Genesis 22, Iím going to bless all nations, in your seed. 
Notice ďAnd to your SeedĒ and He said not as to seeds, with a Ďsí plural ďas of many;  but as of one, to your Seed (singular - one Seed), which is Christ.Ē

There it is.  So we were promised the Seed through Eve and God said through Abraham Iím going to bless your Seed and then we come to the New Testament and it says Jesus Christ is that Seed.  What was taught back there was the gospe.

That was the gospel in chapter 3 of Genesis.  That was the gospel in chapter 12, 18 and 22 of Genesis, to Abraham.  Now we come down and we say that this Seed is Christ.  So itís going to come about through Christ, the one Seed.  Jesus is the Seed of Abraham - the Seed of the woman, the one Seed by which the whole world is going to be blessed.  Paul tells us this is the beginning of the gospel.

Now we have the two seeds.  Notice this, here in 1 Peter are the two Seeds.

1Peter 4:17  For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Youíve got the seed of the Serpent and youíve got the Seed of the woman.  The seed of the woman, through the Seed of Christ, is going to obey the gospel.  How are they going to come into obedience, by the way?  What is going to bring about this obedience?  Judgment!  ďfor judgment to begin at the house of GodĒ  thatís how you come into obedience to the gospel.

Paul says what is going to happen to those who donít obey the gospel of God.  We have that answered in 2 Thes. 1:8, with Godís fiery wrath and indignation is going to be poured out on those, who what?  Do not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ.

2Thes 1:8  in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Keep everything in mind now.  We have a good message - a good news message through God to Eve, there is coming a Seed in you and itís going to do battle against the seed of the serpent. 
Then God tells Abraham Iím going to bless all nations through your Seed.  Paul says Jesus Christ is that Seed. 
But the two Seeds keep going, the two Seeds are here until the end of time.  Those that obey the gospel - those that do not obey the gospel, you are of your father the devil.  If you were Abrahamís children, the seed of the woman, you wouldnít do that.
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Hope this helps  :)

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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Roy Monis

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 04:19:48 PM »

Hi! Kathy

That was right on the head, Satan Versus Christ.

I'll put my money on Christ, thank you. Any takers?

God Bless.

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy.
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Martinez

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 07:24:43 PM »

Right on!

Christ can beat Satan with 2 hands and 2 feet nailed to a cross!
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chuckt

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 10:51:52 AM »

i was just in a discussion on serpent seed and the ""kenites"" and how it is impossible for them to be saved they being the ""tares""  sons of cain forever cursed. ::)


God said to cain:

Gen 4:7  If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

least we forget:

but Cain was a tiller of the ground......who eats dust what is man made of?

spiritual significance? ;D

enmity..................

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.


abel=spiritual cain= carnality.......IMHO


inlove
euty


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hillsbororiver

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 12:15:18 PM »

Hi Chuck,

This verse came to mind when reading your post;

Joh 12:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

These verses also came to mind;



Mat 13:29  But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
 
Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

1Co 3:15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Peace,

Joe
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chuckt

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Re: The serpent's seed?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 01:08:32 PM »

hi joe and blessings!

yup.

seems abel had spiritual in mind  ie heavenly
and cain had carnal, earthly.


grace to you
chuckt


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