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The Florida revival
hillsbororiver:
Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Peace,
Joe
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: Dave UK on May 17, 2008, 03:22:29 PM ---Hi
I have been reading quite a lot about it recently on other forums and it seems to be causing quite a stir. Only today it has been featured in my local paper, which has a weekly 'religious' section. One of our local pastors has been , so it has probably arrived on my door step.
I have looked on Bentley's site, and I have read an account of an experience he had where he met the apostle Paul and visited his home in heaven. This of course cannot be true as we know the Paul is still dead awaiting resurrection, and there are supposed manifestations of gold dust and encounters with angels. I personally don't trust it.
--- Quote ---Col 2:18-19
Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,
Col 2:19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
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What about revivals anyway ? where do they fit into the overall scheme of things ?
We had revival here in Wales 1904 ,and in the Hebrides in the fifties , were they genuine manifestations of God. or were they false signs deceiving many.
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Hi! Dave and Karen
Yes we have had our fair share of these revival capers, the last one was a real treat for sore eyes. Idiots falling on their backs and howling like dogs, they seem to have no limits on how low they want to drag the Holy Spirit of God. God have mercy on their miserable souls.
It's just amazing when one considers that after experiencing one round of deception the very same people will go back dancing, arms waving, singing and clapping to subject themselves to yet another deception. These are people who carry their Bibles faithfully wherever they go, unfortunately they never seem to read or understand what it contains. As Ray would say: AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING.
IT'S LIKE THE CHICKEN PUTTING IT'S TRUST IN THIS
God bless
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy. "The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love." 1Jn.4:8
Kat:
Hi Roundbelly,
The way I see this is that there are a lot of good, honest, sincere people in the church, I was in the church at one time ;) These people are the many called, they do not know God, indeed they are "enmity against God." (Rom 8:7) True the chosen/Elect come out from them, but I would think they usually come out pretty quick after learning the truth. So their is not a real element of truth there to speak of.
These people are striving for an spiritual experience that they believe will bring them closer to God... Satan knows this. In order to work his deceit craftily he does use signs and wonders.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety (cunning, craftiness), so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
v. 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
I feel these people in the church are having real experiences, but not from the Holy Spirit or they would be having their eyes opened to the truth. This is the plan of God for the church in this age, to be deceived. I believe the vast majority are sincerely ignorant, but deceived none the less.
The parable are about the same thing the many/called and the few/chosen, the church is the many and the chosen are the few that come out.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
joyful1:
It's hard for me to think about it now....but when I was in the church I longed for these types of "revivals"....I wanted to experience God! Now I can look back and see that I was actually taunting Him, just as Satan did! "If you are the Son of God, turn these stones into bread!"
Oh, I'd preface my request for Him to "show up" at the service with a halfhearted : "if it be your will, Lord" kind of thing....but the truth of the matter is....deep in my heart....I wanted to SEE what He could do! I needed VISIBLE signs because I didn't have the INVISIBLE!
One night about 7 years ago, I attended a special "revival" meeting in the church where I would occasionally go. Preachers from another part of Canada came in and "tried" to preach the Word that night. Over and over again, the speaker was interrupted by either an apparently demon possessed person or someone "prophesying" or some other disturbance. The Word itself was never preached that night. At one point, gold dust began to appear on the hands of many in the crowd. There were about 600 people in church that night....probably 20-30 people had the dust appear on them. When this began to happen, I suddenly felt very strange....I wanted to SEE this SIGN for myself, so I ran down a couple of rows to hold the hand of a member with gold dust on her hand....I held it still and looked at it very carefully with my eyes....it was real! I can't say it was real gold but there WAS a sparkling gold substance on her hands that she said was not there minutes before! By the way, some people have had the "dust" analysed and it turns out to be just sparkling gold PLASTIC.....but this lady seemed like a very honest, humble lady in her mid 30's and really was astonished that this stuff was appearing on her hands. Other strange things happened that night....oil appeared upon the heads of the teenagers...we were told that this was a "special anointing"...it also appeared on their hands and when it did they were told to lay their hands on people to heal them. Visions began happening....one vision of an angel coming into the service was told to the church just seconds after I saw the very same thing described in detail....I nearly fainted when the speaker began telling the vision that he had just seen seconds before! It was the SAME exact thing that I had seen! But the strange "feelings" did not "feel good or right." Something was wrong!
I went home from this meeting greatly disturbed in my spirit and immediately made a search for "gold dust" on the net. You can do the same. Its been going on for YEARS and all over the world! I gave Cosmo a link to a site that gives the entire history and explains how this is just one more LYING SIGN or WONDER. If anyone wants the link, just PM me. But please, don't get caught up in this silly foolishness.This event marked the END of my attending "church." After what I found out about GOLD DUST I began meeting with other believers in my home only and never returned to the church again. It was the turning point for me. (*Many OTHER things seemed wrong with the church at the time, but this did it for me!)
I've learned that nothing in the flesh can change my sinful heart. It takes the Spirit of the Living God to enter in and begin that process!
With much LOVE and HOPE,
Joyce :)
KristaD:
--- Quote from: winner08 on May 20, 2008, 03:34:06 AM ---roundbellygrove my name is Darren and I posted a post in the testimonial section. Anyways I had a great experience at a revival 20yrs ago. But after sharing my news in the forum I'm confused. I came out of that revival so happy and content. To this day I have never felt that way. So If it's Satans work why would I feel so good. I thought the works of Satan is evil Or was that part of the deception.
Darren
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Satan is capable of making you feel very, VERY good (think about that). He is not out to make us miserable immediately, he reels us in with good feelings and pleasure. He works with our flesh, our carnality, and he is a master at giving us fleshly pleasure. If it is the work of God it will bear fruit and be obvious, feeling good is no proof at all of God's work. Take this from someone who has taken part in and experienced all kinds of fleshy pleasures that I can assure you were pure evil.
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