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The Florida revival
ez2u:
well this is a whole lot to pray about I am a tongue speaking Christian but it is rare and I have all so at times prophesies the Word of the Lord but very few times and I know the difference from going into a spiritual realm picking up anything in the spiritual realm and deliverying it and actually hearing Jesus Christ speak through my voice. That has been very few times in my life but it did happen! No one in this forum can tell me different when I saw people turn their hearts toward God in repentance of their sin. I went into one of those Pentacostal churches where people were running around like a chicken with their heads cut off. It was digusting to me and I never went back. In my early twenties we went to a home meeting,it was banned by all the local churches, made up of a few young coubles worship the Lord on a Friday night. We sang sometimes almost all night into the wee hours of the morning sing lifting our hands and our hearts praising God, talking about what God was doing in our lives, our troubles and praying. It was real it was blessed not because we had some great revelation, nor did we not have our problems but because each one of us had a love and desired to know and do His Will. Was that a Church? I guess you mean the organized church. Do you think that God does not speak through a person, I believe He does probably every minute of the day, to someone else. I have had people come up to me and tell me what came out of my mouth to them changed their lives I didn't even remember them. It wasn't me speaking it was the Holy Spirit speaking through me. Knowledge does not save anyone and it never will. Peole have been growing in Christ for centuries people that couldn't read nor write because they had a heart that wanted God more then themselves. Prayer is so very wonderful. Pray without ceasing. No one can come unto the Father unless the HOLY Spirit draws them. If we live by the Spirit let us WAlk by the Spirit.
Mat 22:37 And Jesus said to him, `Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thine understanding--
Mat 22:38 this is a first and great command;
Mat 22:39 and the second is like to it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself;
Mat 22:40 on these--the two commands--all the law and the prophets do hang.'
You can be the most anointed speaking walking Christ like person on this earth besides Jesus Christ , some pain ridden, fear living carnal christian is going to twist it around to serve the flesh. Does that discount your walk in the Lord and make it evil? I am speaking out because it is not truth to discount the working of the AHoly Spirit and I can witness to you that I can seen and witness the Holy Spirit speak through humans and that tongues are not all a muble jumble mess. But I would not go into those circus's they are calling Churches with people doing strange things for show and tell. peggy
psalmsinger:
Hey roundbelly!
I guess a revival is the carnal system's way of saying "I'm dead......let's play a little music, have an alter call, repeat the sinners prayer(again) pass the hat and presto chango everyone comes alive". Revivals are for the "dead". If you are in Christ you are alive and not in need of any hocus pocus! Believe me, even if you have to go through a dry spell, the Lord will give you an acceptable outlet for your musical expertise that has His stamp of approval. The Lord always provides the best for His children, even if we don't see it at the time. Keep praising our Almighty God!
Peggy,
I trust that you know when the Lord has been truly revealed in you :) He works in mysterious ways (even through the babylonian church system) His wonders to make known.
I just distrust the system and the voo-doo it encourages. Peace,
Rest in the Lord,
Barbara
--- Quote from: roundbellygroove on May 23, 2008, 12:44:31 AM ---Wow!
What a reveling week this has been. How did I miss The Depth of Satan-Who is Antipas? in the Lake of Fire series? I have been reading Ray's teaching for over 4 years now and the reality of that section just hit me this week. I know if I had understood it 3yrs ago I would not have joined back at a church. I have done my time in all types of religious establishments to realize that most of it is a bunch of crock. I even attend 2 semesters at a very reputable "bible college" and realized that its all setup. When I left that college over 10 years ago I swore by that horrible experience that I would never have anything to do with religion again, but here I am being duped. Pretty sneaking I must say... Satan used the very thing that is dear to me get me back into his control by luring me with my passion for music. For many years I have played with all kinds and types of bands both secular and christian. I was scared when I played in secular bands because I knew that I was using my talent to encourage sinners to sin more. Then I felt awkward playing in christian groups because it was too controlled. Everything had to be picture perfect depending on where or who you were playing for. I always felt that when praising God with your instrument that you should always be free to be yourself. I mean why act it out? God knows if you are sincere or not anyways.
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Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: ez2u on May 28, 2008, 12:03:07 AM ---I am a tongue speaking Christian
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Peggy, speaking in tongues is gibberish at best and satanic at worst.
There are religions all over the world that work people into emotional frenzies or emotional moods of melancholy for reasons of power and/or wealth.
http://bible-truths.com/tongues.htm
--- Quote ---If God has shown you the truth regarding languages in this paper, and you still REFUSE to give it up, then you have an ‘idol of the heart,’ and ‘ye are YET carnal,’ which means that you do NOT love God, neither are you subject to his spiritual law. You have reached the end of your spiritual growth, and if you don’t repent and give this idol up, then what you have already attained WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU.
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cjwood:
--- Quote from: Kat on May 20, 2008, 09:02:14 AM ---
Hi Roundbelly,
The way I see this is that there are a lot of good, honest, sincere people in the church, I was in the church at one time ;) These people are the many called, they do not know God, indeed they are "enmity against God." (Rom 8:7) True the chosen/Elect come out from them, but I would think they usually come out pretty quick after learning the truth. So their is not a real element of truth there to speak of.
These people are striving for an spiritual experience that they believe will bring them closer to God... Satan knows this. In order to work his deceit craftily he does use signs and wonders.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety (cunning, craftiness), so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
v. 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
I feel these people in the church are having real experiences, but not from the Holy Spirit or they would be having their eyes opened to the truth. This is the plan of God for the church in this age, to be deceived. I believe the vast majority are sincerely ignorant, but deceived none the less.
The parable are about the same thing the many/called and the few/chosen, the church is the many and the chosen are the few that come out.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
mercy, peace and love
Kati
i love the way you expressed the exact way i have been feeling lately regarding my momma whom i love with all my heart. i have had several different discussions with her regarding wonderful truths i have been shown in my spiritual understanding and things that are so so simple when you read them and the light of His Truth. things my momma can / could understand but is basically afraid to. afraid to let go of her comfortable fairy tale. the fairy tale of hell. your statement " i feel these people in the church are having real experiences, but not from the holy spirit or they would have their eyes opened to the truth. this is the plan of God for the church in this age, to be deceived. i believe the vast majority are sincerely ignorant, but deceived none the less. this is where my momma is...sincerely ignorant, but deceived none the same. i am sure many many of us have family members we feel the same about. i mean, if you can't talk to your family about the wonderfully fabulous truths of the freedom from the hellfire and heaven only club lies of the church, who can you share them with...hmmm...wait a minute...i think Jesus had this same problem with His family...go figure...
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ez2u:
There is something going on there because a few years back an I live in this general area but not in this city. A huge glass window was wash one day an the next day this picture like a water stain ( it was huge) was on the glass. It was not put there by visible hands it looked like the Christ one way and like a woman ( some said Mary another) which for me meant the completeness. Male and female people came from all over to see this as we did too. many candles were left as a lot of Mexican people in in this area. peggy
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