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Roy Monis:

--- Quote from: Dave UK on May 23, 2008, 05:56:25 AM ---Hi
I came to Christ (or so I thought) in 1972 . I came into the church partly through what was then known as the 'Jesus movement' during that time many thousands of young people both here in the UK and in the USA came into the church professing Christ.Some would have described that as some form of revival.
Now my question is , if as some suggest, revivals are really a deception or satanic in origin, then who was it that called me ,was it God or the devil ?
It's probably a ridiculous question , but it is a logical extension to some of the answers given on this thread.
cheers
Dave


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Hi! Dave

No I don't think that is a ridiculous question, I remember a similar thing happen when Billy Graham came to Manchester. Literally thousands of youngsters where called converted and brought to Jesus, one is presently a pastor in one of the local churches. He has no theological or Bible college qualifications but was appointed by his congregation to lead the church.

None the less he is a firm believer in tithing, trinity and hell. Some of his sermons are just over the top yet they put their full trust in him. A friend of ours was a member for a time, but was told that she could afford to give more as what she was giving was far below the stipulated 10%. How he knew how much she was paying and what her income was I don't know, perhaps he was inspired like Peter: "But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, and kept back some of the price for himself, with his wife’s full knowledge, and bringing a portion of it, he laid it at the apostles’ feet. But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God. And as he heard these words, Ananias fell down and breathed his last; and great fear came over all who heard of it." (Acts 5:1-5).   

I pleased to say that this friend didn't suffer the same fate of Ananias and Sapphira. Praise the Lord.

God bless you my brother and sister in our walk in Christ. 

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy UK     

Dennis Vogel:

As Ray likes to say: "to come out of Babylon, you must first go into Babylon."

roundbellygroove:
Winner08, 

I forgot to mention that the church I attend belongs to the A/G(Assembly of God)denomination. Even though this church operates differently from the majority of A/G churches. It is still rooted with unscriptual doctrine. If you want? You can google search it to find the main website and read what the core beliefs are. If you have been reading ray's teaching for awhile it wont take long to see what I have issues with.

I personally don't have a problem with the church or the preacher at all. The majority of the pastor's teaching are good well thought out doctrine. However the church is still underwritten by A/G doctrine...Which means Satan is still very influential because of the core believes that they behold. For the most part these people are good "Christians" but if word got out that one of their worship team members believed differently? It could get really ugly fast!!!  Having said that, I would like to leave as peaceful as possible. Allot of them are great friends of mine whom have taken care of me and my family in difficult times. The last thing I desire is to develop bitterness between us. Besides its not my job to "save" them. Only the Father can bring someone to the Light.

Anywho... I hope this answers some of you questions winner08.  You can pm with any further questions. I prefer to let this subject go for now. Its has been a rough but reveling week for me. :o

roundbelly

Roy Monis:

--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on May 23, 2008, 07:22:39 AM ---
As Ray likes to say: "to come out of Babylon, you must first go into Babylon."

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Hi! Dennis

Brother why do you keep reminding me of that nightmare. I did to them what the penguin on your right did to his mate.

God bless you in your walk in Christ. 

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy UK     

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: roundbellygroove on May 24, 2008, 11:26:10 PM ---The majority of the pastor's teaching are good well thought out doctrine.

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As you spend more time here you will discover that probably EVERYTHING the pastor teaches (of any consequence) is a lie. I'm not saying the pastor is bad or intentionally lying, he most likely does not realize his teachings are 180 degrees opposite from the truth.

To me it's a miracle how completely blind the church is. You would think they would have something right, but they have it ALL wrong. It is a miracle indeed.

But, never the less, Christ preached, is Christ preached.

Php 1:18  What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Dennis

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