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EKnight:
Who [Jesus], being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging [taking by force or plundering] to be EQUAL WITH GOD" (Phil. 2:6).


"I am going to the Father, for THE FATHER IS GREATER  THAN I" (John 14:28).


How Can anything be equal if one part is greater?  How can Jesus be equal with God if God is Greater?

What am I missing?

Eileen

lilitalienboi16:
You are missing the fact that it is the FATHER that is GREATER than Christ and not GOD that is GREATER THAN CHRIST.

Who [Jesus], being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging [taking by force or plundering] to be EQUAL WITH GOD" (Phil. 2:6).

"I am going to the Father, for THE FATHER IS GREATER  THAN I" (John 14:28).

Pay attention to the words and maybe you will see it. If the Lord wills.

Here are reasons why the Father is greater than Christ;

The Father is greater than Christ, but Christ is equal with God.

The Father never had a beginning. Christ has a beginning.

The Father was never given anything. Christ was given everything.

The Father will never bow down to Christ. Christ will one day bow down to The Father.

The Father was never created. Christ was, making Him the beginning of the creation.

The only reason Christ is equal with God is because the Father has lifted Him to this position through the things He suffered, endured etc.. but without the Father Christ would not have the power He does, and since The Father is also God, than Christ is equal with the Father only to this extent. Otherwise the Father is still greater for reasons i mentioned above.

I hope this helps your understanding.

Love in Christ,

Alex

Kat:

Good answer Alex.  Here is a email that I think might help your understanding, Eileen.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6484.0.html


mercy, peace and love
Kat

EKnight:

--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on June 03, 2008, 09:36:42 AM ---You are missing the fact that it is the FATHER that is GREATER than Christ and not GOD that is GREATER THAN CHRIST.

Who [Jesus], being inherently in the form of God, deems it not pillaging [taking by force or plundering] to be EQUAL WITH GOD" (Phil. 2:6).

"I am going to the Father, for THE FATHER IS GREATER  THAN I" (John 14:28).

Pay attention to the words and maybe you will see it. If the Lord wills.

Here are reasons why the Father is greater than Christ;

The Father is greater than Christ, but Christ is equal with God.

The Father never had a beginning. Christ has a beginning.

The Father was never given anything. Christ was given everything.

The Father will never bow down to Christ. Christ will one day bow down to The Father.

The Father was never created. Christ was, making Him the beginning of the creation.

The only reason Christ is equal with God is because the Father has lifted Him to this position through the things He suffered, endured etc.. but without the Father Christ would not have the power He does, and since The Father is also God, than Christ is equal with the Father only to this extent. Otherwise the Father is still greater for reasons i mentioned above.

I hope this helps your understanding.

Love in Christ,

Alex

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Well, this is the most confusing thing I've read so far.  I guess that God does not will me to understand this.

Craig:
You may be confusing God with the Father.

Think of God as a surname 

God the Father
and God the Son (Jesus)

Jesus and His Father are both God and equal in that respect, but the Father is greater.  Like at my house, my son is a Parsons and I am a Parsons so we are equal in that respect, but I am greater than my son (at least for now ;))

Craig

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