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EKnight:
What is the point in praying for God's Will to be done.  It will be done whether or not we pray for it. 

I have a situation going on right now.  I think my son may be relapsing from drug/alcohol recovery.  I know what I want to happen or change but God's will will be done.  So I feel like all I can do is just sit and wait for everything to play out the way it was planned.  I am useless.  I have been praying for God to show me what to do or say but again, if it's His will then He will but if it's not, He won't.  So I am just going about my days waiting and wondering and I really don't like it.

I feel the same way when people here ask for prayers, it's like what's the point, God's will will prevail and no amount of praying will change His plan.

I've read Ray's paper on praying and he said answered prayers are the one's that God already intended to give and unanswered prayers are because it was not God's intention. 

Eileen

Beloved:
I pray now because I want to pray in Gods Will. The problem with not praying is that you are sitting on the fence. You do not want your son to relapse, because then you and he will have to deal with that and naturally you do not want to have to go through this.

The problem is that many times at first we can not see how your son going into relapse will ever glorify God.  It is only after we go through the tribulations that we can see what was needed and why it was needed. 

It is also hard because we only see one part, perhaps his relapse would also help someone else down the road. Perhaps a conselor, another drug addict or even a law enforcement person "will see the light" because of their encounter with your son.

Another hard part is that we do not understand why he shows mercy to one and not to another....why are some people kept totally blind all of their life.

We pray God' will .....because "Christ in us" would,
We pray..... because God "is" totally Soveregn. 
We pray because Jesus commanded us to and his life here on earth was an example for us...he prayed all the time, even the Holy Spirit is groaning


Rom 8:26  And, in like manner also, the Spirit doth help our weaknesses; for, what we may pray for, as it behoveth us , we have not known, but the Spirit himself doth make intercession for us with groanings unutterable,

(Mat 6:8)  Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

(Mat 6:9)  After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
(Mat 6:10)  Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.

When I am fearful that my prayer will not be answered I also pray that God will reveal the reason why it wasn't. I also try to imagine how God's answer (yes or no)to my prayer will Glorify Him.

Dealing with a yes is easy, but how many then Thank him with same fervor as the iniital request
Dealing with a NO, is very hard, and even harder to thank him for it. 

beloved

KristaD:
For a while I felt the same way about prayer and stopped doing it. Now when I pray (just daily prayers) I thank God first off because I know that whatever He does is what's best, then I ask that He increase my faith and strength to get through whatever He has in store for me (or ask the same for someone else who needs it) and that He accomplish His perfect will (which He will anyway but it doesn't hurt to say it). Occasionally I do feel very strongly inspired to pray for a certain outcome and then of course I follow our Lord's example and add "but YOUR will be done" and, you know, on those occasions He DOES exactly what I was inspired to pray for. You can't mess anything up by praying, it IS COMMUNICATION with Him and a relationship has to have communication above all else. Even if you let yourself go and cry and beg for things that aren't His will He will not think any less of you or change His plans and if you ask Him to help you through it you will not be denied. Jesus Himself prayed for God to let the cup pass from Him though that wasn't His Father's will, I don't believe that God expects us to not do the very same thing when we are so hard pressed. When I am struggling my prayers are not well thought out or pretty, they are more like whining and arguing and that doesn't stop Him from speaking to me. It's a marriage that we are in with Him and you can not stop speaking to Him no matter what, it's how we grow closer to Him and mature. Just because you can not make the outcome any different than He planned that doesn't mean that there is nothing for you to say to God about it even if you are just venting.

jakfr0s:
  Hi Eknight, I was wonderding the same thing so I looked it up in Scriptures and came up with these.

 James 5:16  Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Phil 4:6  Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

 Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

 Matt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

 Matt 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

  Luke 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

  I really hope these Truths help, they did me.

  George D.

EKnight:

--- Quote ---Dealing with a yes is easy, but how many then Thank him with same fervor as the iniital request
--- End quote ---

When my son was in rehab he was not allowed to call me for three days.  When I first spoke to him he sounded like a different person.  I asked him "how are you feeling?" and his answer was "I feel great.  I have not been this clear-headed in seven years."  He sounded like a different person to me.  As soon as I hung up the phone, I dropped to my knees with tears flowing thanking God for this miracle of healing.  I never thought my son would change. 

Now it looks as though that healing was short lived.  I am not certain of it, but there are enough red flags to take heed/notice.  My son's situation is what brought me to BT and I was so sure that was the reason for it.  Now I guess that was not God's intention. It's not like I would not still be here if my son was the way he was that first day he called me from rehab.  I continued here because I was grateful to God for taking care of him. Before he even went to rehab I told God that he could take my life if he would give my son his soul back.  And I meant it.  Clearly, He understands I want this so I see no need to pray further for it.

I guess right now I am a little angry. >:(

Eileen

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