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OBrenda:
Good Question Eileen!
It helped me to read through these great responses. My mother-in-law whom I love dearly is Catholic, (You are Familiar) she gets up at 5:00am every morning and goes through her rosary & prayer book for 3 hours. And bless her heart when someone she prays for gets well, she tears up and believes it was her prayers that did it. In a funny way she is taking credit for the results.
Searching for reason why to pray, with a no "free will" belief in prayer, (we know scriptures tell us to pray) I heard a voice answer me back why we are to pray....."Because I want you to learn to love one another"
There are many things in the natural that we can do to show concern for people. But Prayer for others is doing something Spiritual. It places and directs our desires torwards their needs and connects us to our Love for them. That is why he also commands us to pray for our enemies.
I don't know if this adds any help, but I also learned that even when we are thinking Why this or that about God... That in of itself is a form of prayer. When we are in a place of being broken, we are unable to pray with organized words or thoughts...sometimes all we can do is surrender...it is then that you need others to pray!
Keeping your whole family in Prayer,
Brenda
WhoAmI:
I would ask God to give me a true desire to pray. I would have to assume that many of us thought of God before as a genie who's lamp we rubbed and got our wishes. Your communication and letting God know your feelings about things is not about changing his Will. We know Jesus let his self be heard in prayer before he went to the cross, but yet he knew God's Will would be done. God's Will doesn't need changing but we do need to be changed to deal with the trials before us.
Ps 33:22 Let Your mercy, O Lord, be upon us, Just as we hope in You.
Roy Monis:
Dear Eileen
You are frustrated and downhearted because your prayer has not been answered, can you see into the future? Do you know what lies just ahead of you? No you don't and none of us do, but God does be sure of that. How can you say your prayers are not being answered? Do you know what God has predestined for your son or for you to come to that? Be assured that the result bad or good in our carnal sight will be GOOD in God's sight. When God predestines something for us it is for a purpose and the end result for us will be good. "And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified." (Rom.8.28-30).
Don't give up on prayer it is the most powerful weapon in the world "And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, How is it that we could not cast it out? And he said unto them, This kind can come out by nothing, save by prayer." (Mark 9:28,29).
Here were apostles who could bring down fire from heaven, "And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we bid fire to come down from heaven, and consume them? But he turned, and rebuked them. And they went to another village..." (Luke 9:54-56). But they were unable to drive out a demon. So the power of prayer is mightier than calling down fire from heaven by faith.
Please do not underestimate God's predestined will because you do not know if your son's recovery is included in it or not. Why not pray for his complete recovery to be a part of His predestined will instead and leave it at that. Very difficult but it does show complete confidence in a loving and merciful God because that is what He demands complete trust and submission to His Sovereign Will.
So child of God, listen, there will be an end,
Just trust Him for His Word is true,
Be patient and wait, for in His own good time
He'll measure.and bring you through.
God bless you sister and your son in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
KristaD:
That was beautiful Roy.
Eileen it is perfectly ok to be angry with God. I don't mean that you are right in your anger, but that HE UNDERSTANDS and is using it! He brought you to this place where you would be angry with Him and He has a purpose for it for your spiritual growth. I know it's hard to pray when we only want to accept one outcome but if you stop talking to Him it will only get worse. Scream at Him if you want to, tell Him off, question Him and get it all out. He knows what your heart is feeling about it so you may as well say it, sometimes He just needs us to open up and be honest with Him and ourselves so that he can show us where our problem is and He can fix it. I know that when I have been in that place of heated conversation with God something always came out that I didn't realize was there and then He worked on that in me. Praying isn't about getting YOUR will done, it's about a relationship with Him and it requires honesty and openness just like any other relationship.
I do not know His will for your son, but I do know that He has a reason for whatever He is doing. I didn't straighten up the first time I tried to get off drugs either. He needs to take Him through whatever He has to in order to ultimately change his heart. Know that THAT is His ultimate purpose, your son's salvation.
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