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I am a clean slate
EKnight:
When reading Ray's papers, I notice that he is not so much teaching as refuting other teachings. This causes problems for me because I don't really have any preconceived notions about most things. In fact, I have not even heard of most of the heretics that he refutes. So when I am reading something and think I am understanding, Ray talks about the teachings of Christendom. I don't want to know that, I only want to know the truth. Is it not possible to learn truths without first knowing the lies? I mean, I don't need to be "deprogrammed". I am a clean slate that needs to start from scratch.
Is there anyone else here that feels this way?
If it sounds as if I am being negative or arrogant, I truly am not. I am just frustrated with being unable to learn because of my lack of prior knowledge. (and I know I have said something like this in other posts, sorry).
For instance, I was reading the LOF part IV and began to understand a little better about the "harvests" that I have heard you all talk about before. I knew nothing about feasts or harvests. I don't even know who Benny Hinn is or Dr. Kennedy or Hagee. I had never heard of them until I came here. I would not be able to find the televangelists on my TV if I tried. I thank God I don't know them and never did and never will.
And also, I have never heard of the Lake of Fire before coming here either. Do Christians think the LOF is Hell?
Can anyone relate? :-[
Eileen
Paul:
--- Quote from: EKnight on July 26, 2008, 04:54:57 PM ---Is there anyone else here that feels this way?
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Yes. I'd love to just hear the Gospel explained from a pure premise.
[Of course, I understand the majority of his readers are coming from an ET perspective.]
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: Paul on July 26, 2008, 05:24:56 PM ---
Yes. I'd love to just hear the Gospel explained from a pure premise.
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Paul, that's offensive. Are you suggesting that Ray's teachings are unpure?
Purpose for bible-truths.com
"[1] preach with sound doctrine and [2] refute those who contradict it"
[Titus 1:9 - The New Revised Standard Version]
--- Quote ---[Of course, I understand the majority of his readers are coming from an ET perspective.]
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What is 'ET'?
Dennis
KristaD:
I get what you're saying, I think it's kind of the same way for my husband. He was not taught much about God or anything from a christian perspective so a lot of that is all new to him. He doesn't read Ray's stuff on his own though, I kind of tell him everything and he has his own relationship with God and reads his Bible. I'm sorry I can't relate myself because I did unfortunately learn most of the heresy during my short time in babylon but I thank you for starting this thread as I had never thought about it that way before and will meditate on that and what I should be saying to my husband. Perhaps I should just leave out all that negativity. I agree that if you don't know those awful lies it would be nicer to hear the gospel in all it's glory without all the refuting, but sadly so very many people have been indoctrinated that I think Ray is right and most productive in focusing on "exposing" them. Perhaps there are others that we don't know about that focus on teaching clean slates like yourself. I sure don't know of any though. :-\
Paul:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on July 26, 2008, 06:03:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paul on July 26, 2008, 05:24:56 PM ---
Yes. I'd love to just hear the Gospel explained from a pure premise.
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Paul, that's offensive. Are you suggesting that Ray's teachings are unpure?
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No, but I see how that comment could've been taken that way. I just meant the clean slate Eileen's talking about. Like Ray preaching the Gospel to someone who's never even heard of Hell or Christianity before. Just a thought. I love the Lake of Fire Series.
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on July 26, 2008, 06:03:07 PM ---What is 'ET'?
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Eternal torment.
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