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hillsbororiver:
One thing (of many) that really hit me was when it was shown that the apostles were not converted during Jesus' time in the flesh, that the conversion came after His resurrection & ascension and His Spirit was given at Pentecost.

Paul was arguably given the most understanding of all and he was the one who did not partake or have any part in the Lord's earthly ministry, he actually was the most despicable unconverted one. What is the lesson here? Was this the earliest example of the power of His converting Spirit? As a type for the elect? That those who came after would eventually have a deeper understanding and a higher calling?

Thought I would throw this out for any thoughts or comments.

Joe

ertsky:
well it sure is great to sit here and think about Pauls conversion Joe

and your point about the apostles conversion

it all gets me thinking about my life now

SteveB was saying earlier how He had learnt more in the last 9 months than in the 27 years previous

i totally related to that, i feel like i've grown more in the last year than in the 20 years previous

spiritual conversion? whatever it is i dont want it to stop :)

also your post reminded me of

2Co 5:15  and He died for all, that the living ones may live no more to themselves, but to the One having died for them and having been raised.
2Co 5:16  So as we now know no one according to flesh, but even if we have known Christ according to flesh, yet now we no longer know Him so.
2Co 5:17  So that if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new!

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PS: this came to my remembrance

Luk 24:49  And, behold, I send forth the promise of My Father on you. But you sit in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high.

then it's come out of her my people time?

Sorin:

--- Quote from: hillsbororiver ---One thing (of many) that really hit me was when it was shown that the apostles were not converted during Jesus' time in the flesh, that the conversion came after His resurrection & ascension and His Spirit was given at Pentecost.

Paul was arguably given the most understanding of all and he was the one who did not partake or have any part in the Lord's earthly ministry, he actually was the most despicable unconverted one. What is the lesson here? Was this the earliest example of the power of His converting Spirit? As a type for the elect? That those who came after would eventually have a deeper understanding and a higher calling?

Thought I would throw this out for any thoughts or comments.

Joe
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Joe,

Out of all the Apostles, I relate to Paul the most. For I too am guilty of many "despicable" things. If I weren't blunt about it then I'd be a liar in God's eyes. In fact if it weren't for God's soveriegnty, and my lack of "free will" then there's no way in Hell that I would bow to Jesus. I would have much rather blasphemed His name. Just like Paul killed those that were disciples of Christ, I too at one point was an "anti-christ". I guess the lesson here is, so much for "free will" and when God forgives ones sins, He really does not care what you used to be like, and what you used to do. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do, right?

Just thought I should share that with everyone here at BT,
Sorin

Andy_MI:
Paul is indeed our example and pattern to follow.

1Ti 1:15  This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
1Ti 1:16  Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

My studies have been in the letters of Paul lately. Romans chapter 9 is a lot easier to understand now that I see universal reconcilation.

It amazes me back before I had my eyes opened, I asked a pastor in a church I was attending about Rom 9 and he just avoided it.

Love in Christ,

Andy

chrissiela:
Joh 20:24  But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

Joh 20:25  The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

Joh 20:26  And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.[/list:u]

Chrissie

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