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Laren:

--- Quote from: chrissiela ---Laren,

As I see it not all are called to preach/teach, as Paul was:

1Co 12:28  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1Co 12:29  Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

1Co 12:30  Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

1Co 12:31  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.[/list:u]

So I agree with you, in that there is still a need to have the gospel preached to the "lost"....


Chrissie
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Good point Chrissie.  But whether we preach the gospel or not, aren't we to share the love of Christ to the saints, to desire them to come to maturity.  To comfort them, to share in their sufferings, to suffer ourselves for their salvation?  If we seperate ourselves physically from this, how can we do this??  Aren't we to stay spirituallly firm in our belief (stay seperate) yet assist the babes along in their walk?  

Like I said, I'm so appreciative of those who have demonstrted the love of Christ to me, have prayed for me, have held my hand, have rebuked me when needed, to assist me in this maturing process.

chrissiela:
Laren,

I don't see that as a purely black and white 'issue' but I will say that (1) we are to be a LIGHT unto the world (by example/deed) and (2) we are to be ready to give an answer for the hope we have in Christ, when asked.

Chrissie

hillsbororiver:
As Chrissie said we all have different commissions and we all have different gifts.

When God's Spirit moves us in one direction or another He is not exactly subtle about it, His will is done and usually we are only unwitting accomplices.

There have been many times I have read posts where there is a compulsion on someones part to DO SOMETHING, we are doing something when we seek Him and the fruits of His spirit. If we are truly growing toward perfection, Having charity/love toward all, then isn't everyone we come into contact with being blessed? Why stress over something we have no control over?


Joh 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up, at the last day.

Joh 15:19  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

He will set the perimeters, and will draw whomever He wills, leave it in His capable Hands. Don't worry about it, trust in Him;

Mat 11:30  For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.

If and when He uses our example to draw someone to Him we should be always be ready;

1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

I love that verse, if some of you haven't guessed already.

Joe

Daniel:

--- Quote from: ertsky ---i fellowshipped in a denominational church for ten years and the doctrine there was extremely Babylonian

even though i was decieved and believed a lot of those lies i still got thrown out for questioning and refuting the bits i could see were wrong

another ten years after that i finally got set free from the Babylonian lies i had not shaken after all that time. (Thank You Lord!)

so God had me come out of Babylon a decade after i got thrown out of babylonian church so to speak.


--- Quote ---So why did Paul keep going back to them, and keep in touch with them?
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Paul wrote towards the end

2Ti 1:15  This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.

in asia things were not all great as we read in Revelation

Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

we go on to read about

left first love
nicolaitans
balaam
jezebel
etc etc etc

(all of which is fulfilled in me also inwardly)

your post seems to be bucking the spiritual truth that the elect come out of Babylon

as in

Rev 12:13  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

what exactly are you saying

that the church is not Babylon ?

certainly the fellowship i attended was harlot like in doctrine and practice in many many ways

i hasten to add

Rom 11:36 Because, of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things:—unto him, be the glory, unto the ages. Amen!
f
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Can I ask you ertsky, or someone else here, why that which was written to the seven churches in Asia only? I might be a new learner here but I that struck me, why Asia? Was every church in Asia only?

There were churches in babylon, and in Judea and other places. I'm not sure I'm understanding why its adressed to Asia alone. Can someone help explain this to me? You can tell I'm a newbie trying to catch up :lol:

Daniel

ertsky:
cant help there Daniel, i dont know why God picked those particular seven to be the ones to represent the "church" total

He could have made it any seven churches He'd wanted to of course, but it was those seven in Asia that He ordained to be the seven.

maybe it's a bit like all things

why Abraham
why David
why Mary
why the 12
why Judas

why me Lord! LOL!

i think all these things might be worth studying but as the Word says

Rom 11:33 Oh! the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments! and untraceable his ways!
Rom 11:34 For who hath come to know the mind of the Lord? Or who hath become his counselor?
Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given unto him, and it shall be recompensed to him again?
Rom 11:36 Because, of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things:—unto him, be the glory, unto the ages. Amen!

Isa 46:10 Declaring from the beginning, the latter end, And from olden time, that which had never been done,—Saying My purpose shall stand, and All my pleasure, will I perform;
Isa 46:11 Calling, From the East, a Bird of Prey, From a far country, the Man I intended,—Yea I have spoken I will also bring it to pass, I have planned, I will also do it.
Isa 46:12 Hearken unto me, Ye valiant of heart,—Who are far away from righteousness:
Isa 46:13 I have brought near my righteousness. It shall not be far away, And my deliverance, shall not linger,—But I will give In Zion, deliverance, To Israel, my glory.

GOD WHAT A GOD!!

HE JUST BLOWS ME AWAY!!

f

oh if you ever get any light on the asia thing be sure and let me know

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