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Gods laws of health and nutrition - where in Scipture?
Linny:
I'm sorry Alex but we have been talking about a lot of things on this thread and I even went back on this whole page and never saw once "don't listen to this doctor and don't listen to that doctor."
We are just talking about natural ways to find healing using all the things God has given us.
If you choose to use doctors, then go for it. It is your right to do so. Just as it is my right to read for myself and try other things.
By the way, I have gotten a lot of my information, especially regarding child issues, from a Pediatric doctor with 30 years experience who teaches when you need a doctor, and when you don't. It was his very educated opinion that we have used doctors way too much and to our detriment.
Bless you,
Lin
Kat:
Hi ALex,
I do understand your being defensive, as I believe that is what you are studing now. But what has occurred to me is that the doctors are being taught by the system that involves the constant use of pharmaceuticals and I am beginning to see this as a vicious cycle. Certainly we do depend on doctor, but maybe too much. There are many other means to seeking health care, herbal treatment, homeopathy and diet-based therapies.
I've looked into this many times before, it's hard to break away from all you've ever done. But with Ray's illness and treatment, I have a renewed interest as never before, there are alternatives and they use natural means to get healthy, they do not generally work together with one another. It is a decision that we have to make about how we take care of our bodies. I would much rather use natural remedies other than the pharmaceuticals, so I'm researching into all this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Linny on September 03, 2008, 03:39:54 PM ---I'm sorry Alex but we have been talking about a lot of things on this thread and I even went back on this whole page and never saw once "don't listen to this doctor and don't listen to that doctor."
We are just talking about natural ways to find healing using all the things God has given us.
If you choose to use doctors, then go for it. It is your right to do so. Just as it is my right to read for myself and try other things.
By the way, I have gotten a lot of my information, especially regarding child issues, from a Pediatric doctor with 30 years experience who teaches when you need a doctor, and when you don't. It was his very educated opinion that we have used doctors way too much and to our detriment.
Bless you,
Lin
--- End quote ---
Carol V wrote; "PLEASE -- don't listen to that doctor"
Edit: Sorry carol V, i'm not trying to pick on your or anything.. simply showing LIN that i had reason for what i said.
OBrenda:
Alex,
I also understand the issue is more one of "Drugs" and not an issue of "Doctors" it is just that the title of Doctor is attached to the people authorized to give them out. I will be having both my knees replaced soon. I don't think Linny or anyone else here would tell me not to have the medication to put me under, or anything needed to fight infection etc. I think all are in agreement that the work of Surgeons & Doctors are a gift from God. And I don't believe anyone would advise me to live the rest of my life in pain, without the ability to walk!
I can't speak for others, but what I think Linny is trying to strongly encourage us to do, is not put our complete trust in any Man. Even a Doctor! We all know what that got us with Preachers, Teachers, Policemen, Judges, Senators...I think you get my point! Although we respect their intellect & Study, they still put their pants on one foot at a time!
Sometimes it may appear that people are "Demonizing" Doctors, and that, I think is wrong, rather the intent should be to humanize them. It's harmful when we stereotype people. To pass a tree, and say in your mind that's a tree, stops you from really knowing what is growing out of the ground. Does it flower, does it bear fruit, is it alive, how tall will it grow. When we throw a label on something, our spirit stops learning about it!
Do we know there is selfish & evil intent in the Medical field,...Duh....is man there? :-\ But if we trust God ...
I admire your chosen profession Alex, and I believe more good has come from it than not. No body has it all figured out, we adjusted our understanding of truth in scriptures from a wonderful roofer from Miami. Not a theologian with several degrees & doctorates. Don't dismiss everything out right about healing the body in a more natural way.
Also, try and forgive those who have had terrible experiences with Doctors and are venting out their fustration. They need to be validated, without conceeding to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They aren't against you, they are hurting and don't want to see others hurt!
If I have assumed wrong, please correct me!
Brenda
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: OBrenda on September 03, 2008, 05:52:34 PM ---Alex,
I also understand the issue is more one of "Drugs" and not an issue of "Doctors" it is just that the title of Doctor is attached to the people authorized to give them out. I will be having both my knees replaced soon. I don't think Linny or anyone else here would tell me not to have the medication to put me under, or anything needed to fight infection etc. I think all are in agreement that the work of Surgeons & Doctors are a gift from God. And I don't believe anyone would advise me to live the rest of my life in pain, without the ability to walk!
I can't speak for others, but what I think Linny is trying to strongly encourage us to do, is not put our complete trust in any Man. Even a Doctor! We all know what that got us with Preachers, Teachers, Policemen, Judges, Senators...I think you get my point! Although we respect their intellect & Study, they still put their pants on one foot at a time!
Sometimes it may appear that people are "Demonizing" Doctors, and that, I think is wrong, rather the intent should be to humanize them. It's harmful when we stereotype people. To pass a tree, and say in your mind that's a tree, stops you from really knowing what is growing out of the ground. Does it flower, does it bear fruit, is it alive, how tall will it grow. When we throw a label on something, our spirit stops learning about it!
Do we know there is selfish & evil intent in the Medical field,...Duh....is man there? :-\ But if we trust God ...
I admire your chosen profession Alex, and I believe more good has come from it than not. No body has it all figured out, we adjusted our understanding of truth in scriptures from a wonderful roofer from Miami. Not a theologian with several degrees & doctorates. Don't dismiss everything out right about healing the body in a more natural way.
Also, try and forgive those who have had terrible experiences with Doctors and are venting out their fustration. They need to be validated, without conceeding to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They aren't against you, they are hurting and don't want to see others hurt!
If I have assumed wrong, please correct me!
Brenda
--- End quote ---
Nope, you saw right through. I'm sorry for getting so into it. You're right, they are trying to huminize the doctors and not demonize them, sometimes the two seem almost one.. it's hard to see what is what.
Yes, i agree that all doctors do is a gift from God and i would never ever claim to know anything without Him. I also agree that their is evil in the medical field because man is their, and man is very carnal and selfish. However, i don't think that this is the majority, but rather the minority. For the most part i think doctors have good intentions and trying to help people with the knowledge God has so graciously granted them abouit the physical world, wether they know this or not.
Yes never put your complete trust in man, i agree, trust God completely. I am in 100% agreement with this i think just about everything you said.
I know, i'll never make it into the medical field unless the divine Hand of God be upon me, otherwise, it's far to much work, far to many things to learn, far to many people to compete against for me to ever make. Yet i saw my faith tried just this passed week over an experienc ehaving to do with my school, and many people are teling me that with my grades [2.9 average atm] i won't get anywhere, but i have the heart and i trust in God! SO His will be done.
I guess i should apoligize.. i'm sorry for those i have offended, i guess i was just offended myself, but it's true, no one can offend me, xcept me.
Thank you brenda and kat as well, for the gentle nudge on the shoulder.
God bless you all,
Alex
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