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To pastor Tony Smith at thewayofgodchurch.com
Bradigans:
Hebrews 13:4 – AM I LIVING IN SIN?
First, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Bradford J. Dobson. I’m one of the brother’s (after the flesh) of a Yatta Lumumba Dobson. I say after the flesh because for now, I’m learning how not to presume/assume anything. I mean no disrespect to him. I’m trying to make my calling and election sure (2 Peter 1:10). I think Pastor Tony Smith is acquainted also with my mom, Vera Linda Todd.
Anyway, the reason I’m writing this letter is because of some household problems I’m having. My wife either will not or simply cannot be subject and submissive to me in all things.
- Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
I’m beginning to wonder if I’m compromising God’s word by staying with her living out of God’s order. I’m uncertain whether the wife and I are serving the same God. I am certain of one thing though, I have got to stop compromising God’s WORD. It almost killed me recently. I DIDN’T THINK I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT THIS LAST TIME. The depression I’ve recently escaped was straight from hell. I’m asking for you all’s prayers. I shouldn’t be here today, but thanks to God’s mercy and grace. Alleluia!!! HE IS WORTHY!!!
Now Pastor Smith, I would like to ask you a question, and please answer prayerfully ask I share a few scriptures. God knows my heart so be patient with me.
- Hebrews 13:4 says - Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
I need some prayer because I need to know whether or not I'm living in sin. I'm finding out that God will not compromise HIS body THE CHURCH for me, you, or anybody else. It’s dangerous to play Church. I need a lot of prayer for God's will in the decision I’m about to make. I'm contemplating leaving my wife and three kids because I would rather live without them than to live without God. Here’s another verse God is laying on my heart.
- 2 Corinthians 6:14 says - Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?
I believe this is saying, God's Spirit will not relate, fellowship, thrive with an adulterous or idolatrous spirit. I believe that's fornication. Am I interpreting this right?
- 2 Corinthians 6:15 says - And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
God and Satan are fathers of the two kinds of seed. One is THE FATHER of the good seed THE WHEAT and the other is the father of the tares (Matthew 13:37-39, John 8:44). The verse above I think is saying the two fathers of all spirit's have no agreement here on earth. It doesn't matter how nice and polished up the other party may be and appear. Do they have Christ in their heart or the ability to adhere to God's Word through THE HOLY SPIRIT is the litmus. If God is leading me out of this dysfunctional household by THE HOLY SPIRIT, I want His will. I don’t want my will but I want HIS will by and through the power of THE HOLY GHOST (Philippians 2:13). Can you feel me?
- 2 Corinthians 6:17 says - Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
I do not want this to be an act of vengeance, rebuke, or punishment. If we’re not one in Christ, we have both got our own ways. Look at what Jesus had to say. I’m not mad at her. She is who she is. You can’t change the Canaanite heartish woman. That’s who she is. You shouldn’t have got involved with her. That’s where we go wrong thinking we can change someone. God won’t compromise.
- Luke 11:17 says - Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
- Matthew 12:25 says - Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
Anyway, at this point in my life, I simply want God's will. I’m tired of the roller coaster ride. I'm putting this out there because I’m trusting the guidance and leading of THE HOLY GHOST of Christ my saviour.
- Proverbs 3:5,6 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Read Ezra Chapter nine and chapter 10 and then muse the following texts.
- Philippians 3:7-11 - But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, and be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
If anyone has any advice or suggestions, I'm open to the leading and guidance of THE HOLY GHOST.
IN HIS LOVE,
Bradford
P.S.
- Matthew 19:29 - And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
AK4:
Hi Bradford and welcome.
I feel your pain, but i feel you are looking for someone to tell you what you should do. All we can really do is quote you scripture and then God will lead you to where he wants you to be. Maybe this situation you are in with your wife is just one of the fiery trials God is putting you through. Is the answer to get out of this fiery trial or to endure it and overcome it? You quoted scriptures to defend why you should get out, but what about all those about overcoming and enduring.
1Co 4:12 - Show Context
We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it;
2Co 1:8 - Show Context
We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about the hardships we suffered in the province of Asia. We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life.
2Ti 2:3 - Show Context
Endure hardship with us like a good soldier of Christ Jesus.
2Ti 2:10 - Show Context
Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.
2Ti 2:12 - Show Context
if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us;
2Ti 4:5 - Show Context
But you, keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, discharge all the duties of your ministry.
Heb 12:7 - Show Context
Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?
1Pe 2:20 - Show Context
But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.
Re 3:10 - Show Context
Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
1Jo 5:4 - Show Context
for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
1Jo 5:5 - Show Context
Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
Re 2:7 - Show Context
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
Re 2:11 - Show Context
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Re 2:17 - Show Context
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.
Re 2:26 - Show Context
To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations--
Re 3:5 - Show Context
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
Re 3:12 - Show Context
Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name.
Re 3:21 - Show Context
To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Re 21:7 - Show Context
He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
I'm not saying you should do either, but we cannot and should not, IMO, advise you to stay or leave your wife and kids. (of, course we dont know all the details either).
My suggestion is to keep praying for an answer and patience and let God's will lead you.
One last suggestion, If you want your wife to believe as you believe, try dropping subtle things that might peak her interest i.e. print out one Rays paper and just leave it sitting out on the table where should will keep seeing it (i dont know, be creative) even little words or sayings. If she is the way I am picturing her (and most christians) you probably cant come at her directly with what you believe. Just a suggestion.
May God open her (yours and mines also) eyes to more truth,
Anthony
Dennis Vogel:
I do not understand the Subject Line: Why "To pastor Tony Smith at thewayofgodchurch.com"?
--- Quote ---My wife either will not or simply cannot be subject and submissive to me in all things.
- Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
I’m beginning to wonder if I’m compromising God’s word by staying with her living out of God’s order.
--- End quote ---
So just in case this was meant for this forum:
You cannot just get rid of your wife for that reason.
Stop cherry picking verses. There are verses about unbelieving wives and how you should deal with it. And dumping your wife is not an option.
If you need to ask your wife to do something, ask nicely with respect. If she doesn't obey, so what? That's her problem, not yours.
And never, never try and ram your religion down her throat. You'll be responsible for driving her away from the truth.
I cannot believe you would even consider getting rid of your wife for such a foolish reason.
Dennis
carol v:
Leaving your wife and 3 kids will NOT result in your making your calling and election sure.
Great responses Dennis and Anthony.
Linny:
Bradford, it is your flesh that wants to leave your family, not the Holy Spirit. When you say you wife won't submit to you, do you mean to your beliefs?
You cannot force her through submission to believe as you do. Pray that God will open her heart to the truth and until that time, only discuss the things you agree about when it comes to the Lord. There are plenty of those things I am sure. Your home needs peace. Your children need peace. And if you are that depressed, you also need peace.
Conflict and fear won't bring your wife to where you want her. Love her where she is and seek peace my friend. Let God take care of the rest.
Blessings,
Linny
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