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Linny:
A couple of things popped out at me when I was in the Word today.
Thought I'd share.

BT brought us out of the Word of Faith movement. You know the one. They are the biggest money grabbers of all. I used to sit in church and fear what others thought of us at offering time. On disability we only get paid once a month. I asked my poor husband to divide it into 4's so we'd always have something to put in.  :-[ But then I felt guilty because it wasn't my "firstfruits" if I didn't give it all right away.
I would get so upset and actually frightened if he didn't tithe. He was confused about tithing and questioning it WAY before me.

Well, I'm reading today in Matt Ch 6:1-5 about the giving of alms in secret and it occurs to me, first, that alms seems to mean helping others, which the church has stolen and placed themselves in the helping role using our money, so that no one looks around them to see those right in their faces who need help.
And second, that when others know what you are doing, your reward is just that and no more. The only way to be rewarded by the Lord in your giving is to do it so no one sees. How much more obvious can a basket in the front of the church be?? ::)

The Word is in complete contradiction to what the church is teaching! I am just so irritated that preachers can read that and still preach that you must sew a seed to them to get blessed.
And you have the TV preachers reading the names of their givers!!! :o

The other thing was along the same lines about praying in secret. Matt 6:5-13. The whole lesson about praying in secret, no vain repetitions, not praying out loud for others to hear, is followed by the Lord's Prayer which all the churches pray out loud in unison! Again, complete contradiction.

Thank you Ray and BT for rescuing me from Babylon!

Phill B:

--- Quote from: Linny on August 22, 2008, 05:11:12 PM ---I used to sit in church and fear what others thought of us at offering time.
--- End quote ---

Hi Linny

I can relate to your comments.

I've only spent several months attending Church(s) in my life time. I feel sorry for all those who have been fleeced by paying tithes.

I used to fear what others thought about me in any situation. In fact if I was walking down a crowded main street and heard someone laughing several blocks away - I assumed they were laughing at me!

One of the liberating gifts I learnt while trudging this road of happy destiny was...Its none of my business what other people think about me!

I used to fear man. The Bible taught me to fear God instead. My reward for doing so is that I can truly say I do not really care what people say about me now. Nor do I get any anxiety attacks like i used too!

I still have daily problems and issues. But I have peace today.

Glory to God.

Dave in Tenn:
Phil, I used to be quite a bit like that too.  When they did the huddle in a football game, I was sure they were talking about me.   ;D  And that was on television.

Linny, I hear ya.  That's one of the things that started to make me see that the church had it wrong.  I'd just read the scripture you are referring to when that sunday our pastor said he'd been reading the 'financial reports' and, though he didn't name names, made it very clear that he KNEW who had been giving and how much.  Don't let your left hand know what you're right hand is doing?  But I'm supposed to let a finance committe and the pastor know?  Don't think so!

Another early one was the admonition to 'let there not be too many teachers.'  I read that, and the next sunday there they were (large and growing church) pleading for teachers to fill all the spots in their man-made Sunday School organization.  Huh?

Anyway...I've been trying to write a song that incorporates some of these thoughts in Matthew's gospel, so it was cool to see the heading. 

OBrenda:
Amen Linny!

KristaD:
It's shocking to realize how plainly some of the things they ignore are written in the word isn't it? Sadly when you're blind writing on a page doesn't do much for you. Sadder still is that *we* see what's there and still can't get it all right :-\.

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