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Richard D:
This is a difficult post for me so please be patient with me. I do believe Jesus lead me to Bible truths and this forum. I’m hoping that another Christian can understand what I’m saying here or maybe read between the lines of what I really am saying! It would be good if Jesus just talk audible to me, it would make things easier.

I was born into the Catholic faith and went on to other denomination as well as nondenominational churches too. I left what Ray refers to as Christendom and that’s a good thing. However as I’m out of Christendom, Christendom is not out of me.

I have learned some wonderful truths on the lake of fire and also in this forum by some incredibly wonderful Christians which I am the least. The greatest truth I learned was that hell is a lie. I serious believe it was true and I felt it was my destiny because as I felt Gods calling I always said yes and felt security because sometimes I felt so close to God.

But in time I would fall and after awhile I did not want to continual on with God because of my belief in hell. It bother me and I wanted to put it out of my mind and thought until it happens don’t worry, just try to find some peace and contentment now while you can.

God has made vessels of honor and dishonor, I always felt he made me a vessel of dishonor and maybe still do because I never attended college and even in High school I was by far the brightest light bulb on the chandelier. When I had done wrong I knew it was wrong. I feel I wanted to do what was right but I could not figure out how to or maybe it was easier to give in to my own lust than try and fight it. So I had to conclude God made me a vessel of dishonor.

That’s why I said the greatest truth I learned is that hell is a lie. Now I can love God because he is God without any threats. If I learn nothing else besides this truth I’m alright with that because I know that Gods ultimate plan for me is good and I will come out of the lake of fire one day and be with God. So now I like the old saying better late than never.

Ray had mentioned a verse from the Bible I remember what the verse said but don’t remember where its located but it said that the people of the earth will learn righteousness and I do have a desire to learn righteousness. The more I learn here and now the less I have to learn there and then and could end up with and early out, Ray did mention this will not be a walk in the park.

I see some Christians on this forum with a great deal of light concerning the things of God and how these same ones can put scripture together like no tomorrow. I don’t know how to study the Bible in a productive way and would like to know how. If I could be directed to a study guild that would be of help to me I would appreciate it. I thought World Bible School would help me with this but it turns out they taught false doctrine so I left that on line Bible course and have nothing more to do with it.

It is amazing to me what God done with me with just a couple of truths I received since I come to Bible Truths and this forum. I only started to read the lake of fire series 4 maybe its been 5 weeks now and only about one week with this forum but if you could see the change in me then you would understand why I feel like I do.

I know in time I may look back at this post and laugh but I can’t laugh at me now, I don’t have time to, there is to much in front of me I need to learn, so many things that need to be change.

I’m not a prefect man, not a good man, just a man. Nothing special about me. I am the least of all of you wonderful beautiful loving people. I thought you should know me, a nobody!

Jackie Lee:
Hi Richard, I have an extreme inferioity complex when it comes to the knowledge that so many have here on the board.
I have been a member for over a year but feel like a newbie.
Things just don't sink in like I would want, I considered leaving this board because I felt like a fish out of water.
Yet I keep coming back every day when possible to just get a little more heart felt knowledge, knowing this is the will of God.
I honestly know how you feel but I have never saw one person putting another down for being here learning the will of God.
 I know I am not as wise and smart as most here but that is why I must be here.
Don't worry and things will come to you as God wills.
I am still struggling with some things but know I am closer to the truth than I ever have been before.
I hope this helps you knowing you are not alone not ever.

AK4:

--- Quote ---If I could be directed to a study guild that would be of help to me I would appreciate it. I thought World Bible School would help me with this but it turns out they taught false doctrine so I left that on line Bible course and have nothing more to do with it.
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Hi Richard,

I could never study anything.  During my school years i could never study anything.  Either i got it or i didnt.  When it came to the bible it was the same thing.

Then i bought a one year bible which gave you sections to read for about 15 minutes a day.  I went through it in like 7 or 8 months.  I stopped reading for awhile, but little bits of verses i could remember.  I never studied, but God just let me remember maybe a word or two here or there.  So i read it again, from front to back and the same thing happened.  So i had realised i either get it or not.

When i "stumbled" on BT and was reading Rays paper it just all started clicking.  "i remember that". 

Well to shorten this post-- i still cant study the bible really, IF i didnt have e-sword and the online bible sites.  Without these i would be at the same state of either i get it or not. 

You can download e-sword for free just go to esword.com and the other one i use is http://bible.crosswalk.com/-- i like this one but its a little slow at times.

That is the only way i can put verses together--all you have to do is remember key words or phrases, type it in and BOOM.

This forum helped me alot because someone would post something looking for an answer and i would just give my honest opinion with scripture--but  i had to find the scripture with esword or the other one.  Without those im lost

Hope this helps and cheer up, not one of us here know if we are part of the elect either and feel the same at times i believe

In Jesus,

Anthony

EKnight:
Jackie lee, I couldn't have said it better myself.  I have, in previous posts, expressed the same concerns and sentiments as both you and Richard.  And, like you, I just press on hoping things will sink in and it's enough for now just knowing that I too am closer to the truth than I ever have been before.  I am continually trying to shed those beastly ways.

Richard, your post is so very honest and sincere.  You sound like a good person to me and, if you weren't, then you are well on your way to being one.  I am not well versed in scripture either and I get most of my bible studies from the forum members.  I use E-sword Live which is a quick and easy way to look up scripture.  And then I re-read some of Ray's papers.  It all helps.

Eileen

Beloved:
You are absoulutely right Richard D, and you have diagnosed your own problem :
you have a bad case of retained christitanity.  :o

The false doctrine that you need to let got rid of  is
" I have to do everything and be perfect for God to want me and I can go to heaven "

The true doctrine...you cannot attain righteousness on your own

(Mat 19:17 KJVR)  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.   Jesus knews that no one can keep the commandments...we are flesh

The first commandment is to keep the Sabbath...spiritually that means to totally rest in God to work a work in you. You are just His servant

As a "worthless" servant rejoice that God has opened your eyes and ears, isn't that marvelous start
Now look what he says about your current state (knowing you are worthless and unworthy)

Luk 18:10  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

You are exactly what he is looking for

(Luk 5:30 KJVR)  But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?
(Luk 5:31 KJVR)  And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician: but they that are sick
(Luk 5:32 KJVR)  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(1Co 1:25 KJVR)  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

(1Co 1:26 KJVR)  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
(1Co 1:27 KJVR)  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
(1Co 1:28 KJVR)  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are:
(1Co 1:29 KJVR)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Do not be too impressed with all the bible quotes, Esword does it all. Honestly I can not quote you one chapter verse of any bible verse, but I read and study and I do know what is said in the bible. Esword just helps us dumb ones find it.

All of us here are always learning more and God is showing us more everyday.
It is the trial of fire in our lives that is hard, we all have stuff in our lives that needs to be burned out.

Beloved

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