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Author Topic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...  (Read 1862 times)

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legoman

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« on: September 17, 2008, 01:49:34 PM »

Rev 11:15, Rev 22:5 and 1 Cor 15:25-28 are a contradiction.

That is, unless, "forever and ever" really means "eonian" or "of the ages".  Then there is no contradiction.

Correct?
Kevin
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mharrell08

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 01:58:41 PM »

Correct  :)
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legoman

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 02:04:16 PM »

Thanks :)  Just wanted to confirm I wasn't losing my mind.

Now the next question is... when I show someone these 3 verses, why don't they see the contradiction!?

No need to answer... I already know why :)

Cheers,
Kevin
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mharrell08

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 02:07:37 PM »

LOL  :D
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musicman

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 02:10:38 PM »

Forever + forever = ???????
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legoman

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 02:22:35 PM »

Really, I don't mean to mock.  But it is frustrating.

I have to wonder about the logic of some people.  I know God blinds people, but it amazes me.

Christ reigns for ever and ever.
Yet Christ's reign ends.

Hmm, seems like a contradiction to me.  I mean I don't have a degree in logic or anything, but it seems pretty obvious.

Oh well.
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David

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 07:49:45 PM »

Its all to do with the "everlastings", "eternals", "Forevers"  ;)
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Samson

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 08:10:20 PM »

Kevin,

             It has to mean Ages unto the Ages and not Forever and Ever. Aion and it's Adjective Aionios can't mean Forever, although Theologians and Bible Scholars would like you to. They want you to believe the meaning of the Greek Word Changed and that it was okay for the Latin Fathers, Justinian and Augustine and others to change the meaning of Aion to Everlasting, Eternal and Forever.

             As Ray has stated and others, it's illogical and grammatically incorrect to have more than one Forever as stated at the passages you referred to. Forever is endless, so it doesn't make sense to have a verse say " Forever and ever "; there can't be more than one forever.

                               Kind Regards, Samson.
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