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Cain the devil's baby
chuckt:
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Hi Chuckt :)
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hi trish, hope all is well.....
oey, sherry shrine.......shakes head.
good post and:
this is how i sum it up for me, i realize there is so much more,but for me:
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
1Jo 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Nothing has changed eh, yes and the spiritual message clear.......
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
our next example would be cain and abel i think;
cain = earhtly carnal minded.
abel = heavemly spiritual minded.
that old dust eater......
Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
1Jo 3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew ((( WHY DID HE SLAY )) he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
thank you for your reply and
God bless
chuckt
Kat:
We do have a teaching about the "seed of the serpent" from Ray, it is on audio 1 of the Mobile Conference 2005, 'What Is The Gospel Of The Kingdom?' I thought this would be helpful with this discussion.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=6142.0 --------
THERE ARE TWO SEEDS
Now let’s go back and get a little more prospective on everything.
There are two seeds on the earth. In Genesis 3 we read about the seed of the serpent (the seed of Satan) and the seed of the woman, there are the two seeds.
Now we are going to see the progression of the gospel. In Genesis 3;
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between you (serpent) and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He (it) will bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.
This is talking about something that is going to come and bruise - the word is actually closer to crush than bruise, in both places.
So we have this promise of a Seed back in the garden, the Seed of the woman. Now we come a few generations down the road and God says to Abraham.
Gen 22:18 And in your Seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.
We want to follow the progression of the seed, so look at Galatians 3.
Gal 3:16 And to Abraham and to his Seed the promises were spoken. It does not say, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, "And to your Seed," which is Christ.
So we see just read that in Genesis 22, I’m going to bless all nations, in your seed.
Notice “And to your Seed” and He said not as to seeds, with a ‘s’ plural “as of many; but as of one, to your Seed (singular - one Seed), which is Christ.”
There it is. So we were promised the Seed through Eve and God said through Abraham I’m going to bless your Seed and then we come to the New Testament and it says Jesus Christ is that Seed. What was taught back there was the gospe.
That was the gospel in chapter 3 of Genesis. That was the gospel in chapter 12, 18 and 22 of Genesis, to Abraham. Now we come down and we say that this Seed is Christ. So it’s going to come about through Christ, the one Seed. Jesus is the Seed of Abraham - the Seed of the woman, the one Seed by which the whole world is going to be blessed. Paul tells us this is the beginning of the gospel.
Now we have the two seeds. Notice this, here in 1 Peter are the two Seeds.
1Peter 4:17 For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God?
You’ve got the Seed of the Serpent and you’ve got the Seed of the woman. The Seed of the woman, through the Seed of Christ, is going to obey the gospel. How are they going to come into obedience, by the way? What is going to bring about this obedience? Judgment! “for judgment to begin at the house of God” that’s how you come into obedience to the gospel.
Paul says what is going to happen to those who don’t obey the gospel of God. We have that answered in 2 Thes. 1:8, with God’s fiery wrath and indignation is going to be poured out on those, who what? Do not obey the gospel of Jesus Christ.
2Thes 1:8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Keep everything in mind now. We have a good message - a good news message through God to Eve, there is coming a Seed in you and it’s going to do battle against the seed of the serpent.
Then God tells Abraham I’m going to bless all nations through your Seed. Paul says Jesus Christ is that Seed.
But the two Seeds keep going, the two Seeds are here until the end of time. Those that obey the gospel - those that do not obey the gospel, you are of your father the devil. If you were Abraham’s children, the Seed of the woman, you wouldn’t do that.
The gospel has to do with good news about a Seed coming through the woman, being passed on through the genealogy of Abraham, all the way down to Jesus Christ being born of the virgin Mary in Bethlehem of Judea. He’s the Seed.
But now we don’t hear about the gospel of the one Seed. Jesus Christ didn’t call His gospel ‘the gospel of the one Seed,’ did He? No, He call it the gospel of what? The kingdom of God. He preached the gospel of the gospel of the kingdom of God.
In Isaiah 52 we learn about this gospel.
Isa 52:7 How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good tiding (good news - gospel), that publishes peace; that brings good tidings of good, that publishes salvation; who says to Zion, Your God reigns!
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
winner08:
So Kat, do I understand you correctly? The two seeds are the 1(seed) people who believe and 2nd(seed) thoes who do not believe. by believe I mean believe in the good news of the gospel.
Darren
faith2faith:
Thanks chuckt..!
awesome post thanks for that....(Seed)-carnal-Natural-Flesh Vs (Seed)-Spiritual!!
i had a look at Gen 3:8). To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree
about which I commanded you, You must not touch it, Cursed is the ground
because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.
then i read Gen 4:2).Now Abel kept flocks, and cain worked the soil.
Vs 3).In the course of time cain brought some of the fruit of the soil as an offering
to the Lord
In Gen 3:8 God has Cursed the ground-soil....and cain brings this to the Lord as his offering....God rejects his offering
I would to if someone offered be something that has a curse on it.
I read where God says to cain; Gen 4:7).if you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is
right, sin is crourching at your door, it desires to have you, but you must master it.
Abels offering was accepted by the Lord....Because it was the first Born of his flock....New..Fresh!!
Bless yah chuckt ;)
trish.
Martinez:
Good word Trish!
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