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Douglas Wayne Thomas:
Jeff H. wrote, "This is a good place, but not always a kind place." I have to agree with him somewhat, there are some great people posting on this forum and then there are the people trying to be cryptic. If one does not explain themselves and the meanings to their posts it comes off as some type of superior spiritual intellectuality.
I am not trying to be depressing, it is just that after having been lied too so many times by "Mainstream Churches" some of us have become a little paranoid. Myself especially, I asked these (original) questions with a sincere desire for a answer, not to be absurd. Many people have given me a great deal to think about, however it is time I stopped posting and went back to lurking on the outer fringes of Bible-truths.com. Please lock this post, it has outlived it's original meaning, and intent, and has caused dissension amongst several members. That was never my original intention. :(
firefly77:
This is so sad to see... once again I feel sick that we are not able to at least agree to disagree. Instead of getting upset, why don't we ask, "Help me to understand your point of view because I am just not getting it." If we don't get along now, how can we ever serve Christ and His interest? What did Jesus say? "This is how everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Hmmmm... Is it an impossible task? I don't think so!
Grace and Peace,
Angie
Beloved:
Assuming that all that come to the forum have read Ray's position on this is seems on the surface to be an absurd question to ask
We here at the forum and conference want to believe that we assemble and fellowship as the true church but as I looked at this passage and it may me ponder
Oh my I really have to apologize because this section got pasted in all wrong it should have read
Assuming that all that come to the forum have read Ray's position on this topic on the surface this seems to be absurd question to ask but is it?
When I posted this I was really trying to support you in asking this question , you have made a good point. I began to see more myself. Sometimes I need multiple angles to see a point....I love it when the scriptures reveal more.
I apologize again if I hurt your feelings it was not my intent. Each person that posts takes ray's teachings and inputs a part of himself from their own perspective, we come such varied backgrounds what is simple to see for one is not so simple for another to see. You can read a verse a thousand times and not see all that it has to say.
I hate to type and cannot always read the fonts and when I post I often forget to do spellchecks and proofread sometimes, this correction may not make a difference but I can honestly see how you could have thought I was being sarcastic.
beloved (I spellchecked, apologize and a lot of other words were corrected.)
Dave in Tenn:
--- Quote from: firefly77 on September 29, 2008, 10:29:39 PM --- why don't we ask, "Help me to understand your point of view because I am just not getting it."
--- End quote ---
Yep.
That takes gracefulness from both the poster and the 'repliers', however. And in long threads such as this that meander into new territory, it gets especially difficult to suss out who is responding to what.
Add to that, if one encounters a longer POST which resembles a sermon, replies to various points in it CAN seem like a gang-up.
What in regular human interaction can be discussed in a few minutes can take days on in internet forum, which gives misunderstanding more time to breed.
It is with a lot of wisdom that the originators of THIS forum decided on it's purpose. It's not possible to fact-check every thought expressed any more than it is to discern motives behind posts (until it becomes abundantly clear). Through discussion, we CAN clarify points raised AND keep to the purpose of the forum. But we can't do that if either posters or repliers aren't willing to listen, only to preach. With that, we get a Babel. That serves no one.
AK4:
Its crazy. Ive been here for almost 3 months but read almost every post and every email and etc etc and never have i seen whats been here lately. And the root of the cause is because Ray held another convention and exposed more that contradict.
One thing i have learned and not just from Rays teachings, but in general, I have learned to give my other cheek when someone slaps me in the other. I learn this outside of here, but what i am seeing lately is that, its not some, its a very few that has just really appalled me. I agree with some of the "new people" who have come here.
I would consider myself pretty new here but i know that what the Lord has shown me, i could easily stand with the "veterans", (but only in humility i would do this, this was added from the original post). It makes me truly sad because i was extremely lonely before knowing there was this place and if i had to chose again between lonely and being in a place with "other like minded believers who criticizes "newbies"", id rather be alone.
Those very few need to check themselves and you know who you are, or better put ask God to show you humility from the knowledge that you have obtained. Ask for a thorn in your flesh to keep you humble.
I could go on and on but I wont.
In all sincerity and in Jesus name,
Anthony
ps And yet another thread will be locked because of silliness
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