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How Long Has Man Been On Earth
enigmoxical:
--- Quote from: Heidi on October 01, 2008, 09:18:26 PM ---Hi there enigmoxical....If God is resting, being the 7th day, how can it be that we (humans) are still stuck in the 6th day. It does not make any sense. I believe that because God is still creating humans into the image of the Son, that the 7th day will be completed and we all move onto the 8th day and so on and so on.
Ray says (and the Word witnesses to the fact) that:Now all this ties in with keeping the seventh day, a day of rest. If God is still ceasing from all the works that were finished, He does that on the seventh day. This still must be the seventh day of God's ceasing!
I think it is important to apply common seance in the matter and therefor it would not make any seance that we are a day behind God......for as He is so are we in the world.
I would appreciate some input from the mods if this thought is going the right way.
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Hello Heidi, and please don't get me wrong. I don't wish to be argumentative or disruptive in any way. All I want to do is to examine the scriptures and learn the truth. But I really don't know how I can explain my thinking any better than what I just have. Man is a work in progress, agreed? And has that work been completed? Well, I guess that depends upon whose perspective we are looking at this from. From God's viewpoint, yes, the work is done. He has declared the end from the beginning. And when God says something, it's as good as gold - we can take it to the bank. But from our perspective, is the work finished? Are we finished products? No, because we still have to go through the process of death and resurrection. And we will not be finished products until we are raised as immortal and incorruptible spiritual beings, ones who ARE fully created in the very image of God.
Let me ask you a question, Heidi: Why do you suppose the Concordant Version uses the phrase "IS ceasing" instead of the phrase "HAS ceased"? Do you think there might be a subtle difference? ;)
Peace
enigmoxical:
Here are some interesting observations from EW Bullinger's Number in Scripture:
Man was created on the sixth day, and thus he has the number six impressed upon him. Moreover, six days were appointed to him for his labour; while one day is associated in sovereignty with the Lord God, as His rest.
Six, therefore, is the number of labour also, of man's labour as apart and distinct from God's rest. True, it marks the completion of Creation as God's work, and therefore the number is significant of secular completeness.
The serpent also was created on the sixth day.
The Sixth Commandment relates to the worst sin,—murder.
The sixth clause of the Lord's prayer treats of sin.
Six is the number stamped on all that is connected with human labour. We see it stamped upon his measures which he uses in his labour, and on the time during which he labours. And we see this from the very beginning.
Corresponding to these measures we have the first division of the natural time-spaces which measure man's labour and rest,—the day, consisting of 24 hours (4x6), divided into the day and night of 12 hours. The multiples and subdivisions are also stamped by the number six. The months being 12; while the hours consist of 60 minutes (6x10), and the minutes of 60 seconds (6x10).
Akira329:
Oh Lord I feel compelled to throw in my two and half cents!!
God help me!
H4480
מנּי מנּי מן
min minnîy minnêy
min, min-nee', min-nay'
For H4482; properly a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses: - above, after, among, at, because of, by (reason of), from (among), in, X neither, X nor, (out) of, over, since, X then, through, X whether, with.
H2308
חדל
châdal
khaw-dal'
A primitive root; properly to be flabby, that is, (by implication) desist; (figuratively) be lacking or idle: - cease, end, fail, forbear, forsake, leave (off), let alone, rest, be unoccupied, want.
The way I have always thought about what Ray had said was that God is yet ceasing from his work even on the seventh day.
His work is coming to and end, it's going to stop, he is going to no longer continue his work on this day.
I think the question is at the end of the night will he rest in the morning.
This day will be divided just like any other day, day and night.
I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day, when the night cometh, when no man can work, here am I send me.
My dad says that all the time, it has never rung more true than now after the conference.
Don't mean to jump off topic of thread!
Don't mind me...........I'm a nobody here!LOL
I'll go back in my hole now
Antaiwan
Heidi:
I don't have an argumentative bone in my body....just trying to understand the scripture and to know the truth. This is a very interesting post enigmoxical and I do understand what you are conveying to us. I need to ask questions until I understand by the grace of God.
So here is a further question. Why would God then say: "come into my rest" i.e. inviting us to partake in His rest and allow Him to bring us to full understanding and to complete the work which He has begun?
Heidi:
Another scripture to contemplate:
Hebrews 4:10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.
This is telling me that I am now in His rest, the Sabbath day, the 7th day
What is your take on this?
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