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Mystikalman80:
Hello,
I highly disagree with using 'Point-of-Contact' for healing.
Matthew 9:20 - 21(NIV)
--- Quote --- Just then a woman who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years came up behind him and touched the edge of this cloak. She said to herself, "If I only touch his cloak, I will be healed."
--- End quote ---
Luke 7:2 - 10
The Faith of the Centurion
--- Quote ---1When Jesus had finished saying all this in the hearing of the people, he entered Capernaum. 2There a centurion's servant, whom his master valued highly, was sick and about to die. 3The centurion heard of Jesus and sent some elders of the Jews to him, asking him to come and heal his servant. 4When they came to Jesus, they pleaded earnestly with him, "This man deserves to have you do this, 5because he loves our nation and has built our synagogue." 6So Jesus went with them.
He was not far from the house when the centurion sent friends to say to him: "Lord, don't trouble yourself, for I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. 7That is why I did not even consider myself worthy to come to you. But say the word, and my servant will be healed. 8For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, 'Go,' and he goes; and that one, 'Come,' and he comes. I say to my servant, 'Do this,' and he does it."
9When Jesus heard this, he was amazed at him, and turning to the crowd following him, he said, "I tell you, I have not found such great faith even in Israel." 10
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I belive you don't need physical contact. I have seen preachers give out 'Pryer-Cloths' and I just shake my head.
-Nadeem
Andrew:
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskillfull in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Phi 4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
Phi 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Gal 5:23 Meekness,[/b] temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Phi 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1Co 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
jennifer:
The significance of the handkerchiefs and aprons were to show non-believers that the Lord was working with the Apostles and confirming their message by accompanying signs. (Mk. 16:20) In Acts 14:3 we see the Lord bore witness to the message about his love and kindness by enabling them to perform signs and miracles. This speeded up the process of growing the early Christian community. The Jews would have remembered Exodus 7:19 where God commanded Moses to use his staff to turn the rivers of Egypt into blood as well as Elisha's staff being laid upon a child's face to bring the child back to life (2 Kings 4:29). The miracles from the handkerchiefs and aprons would have shown the Jews that Jesus was the Messiah they should be turning to. Additionally, in Acts 5:15 we see where the sick were laid in the street so that perhaps the shadow of Paul might fall on them and cure them by their faith. Two other examples of faith in Jesus were manifested in Matt. 9:21 (the woman with hemmmorge) and Matt. 14:36 (sick touching the fringe of Jesus' robe).
We know that these special gifts of the Holy Spirit were withdrawn after the apostles died.
Grace be with you.
gmik:
Jennifer, could you please give us the scripture references that state that these gifts were withdrawn when the apostles died? Thanks.
jennifer:
The scripture is 1 Corn. 12:28, which lists the ranking of spiritual gifts: 1) apostles, 2) prophets, 3) teachers, 4) miracle workers, 5) gifts of healing, 6) ability to help others or power to guide them, 7) gift of tongues. Verse 12:31 states the higher gifts are those you should prize.
1 Corn. 13:8-10 indicates that prophecies fail, tongues cease, knowledge vanishes--which came about due to apostasy Paul mentioned in 2 Corn. 11:4,12-15 and in 2 Thes. 2:3, 1 Tim. 1:19-20, & 2:16-19. John also mentioned antichrists appearing in 1 John 2:18. If you read all of 1 Corn. 13:1-13 you will note that Love is the best gift of all. Also see 1 Corn. 14:2-5, 14:22-tongues were for unbelievers, 14:24-25-prophecy was for believers, and 14:39.
The 12 apostles were commissioned by Jesus with these spiritual gifts. (Matt. 10:1, Mark 3:15) The miraculous gifts that others received only manifested when one or more of the apostles were present (Acts 2:1, 43)
& (Acts 3:1-3, 16) or by the laying on of the hands of the apostles (Acts 6:5-6) (Acts 8:5-7, 14-18) (Acts 19:6).
A physical healing is shown in James 5:14 to involve the elders of the church anointing the sick person with oil in the name of Jesus along with prayer.
Spiritual healing was done through prayer offered in faith (James 14-16), being always cognizant those prayers must be in accord with God's will
and what must be. An example of this is shown in Acts 10:44-47 where the Holy Spirit was poured out on Cornelius, his relatives and close friends, all Gentiles to whom Peter was speaking. Their healing manifested in them speaking in tongues and acclaiming the greatness of God and thereby being baptised by Peter in the name of Jesus Christ.
The book of Revelation completed the Bible cannon and with the death of the Apostle John on the island of Patmos, these gits ceased to be transmitted.
Christ's message to the 7 Churches (Rev. 1:11) given to John in Rev. 2:1-3:22 clearly shows the early workings of Babylon apostacy that now is in full force until the universal restoration (Acts. 3:21) (1 Corn. 15:27-28) & (Rev. 22:1-5, 12-13).
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