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I Corinthians 15:40
rocky:
Reading thru these scriptures, wondering especially about verse 40. Is this talking about types of resurrected bodies? or just types of bodies in general, a terrestrial (flesh now) and celestial (after resurrection)?
1Cr 15:35 But some [man] will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Cr 15:39 All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.
1Cr 15:40 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
1Cr 15:46 Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Cr 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Cr 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
What i'm struggling with is understanding the resurrection to judgment in John 5 for non believers. I understand that this judgment is the lake of fire, and it is to burn out the carnal mind. But,since the resurrection is a resurrection to life, (carnal mind is death, mind of spirit is life) incorruptible, spiritual, heavenly, power, celestial, bearing the image of the heavenly;
it would seem that our carnal mind (soul) won't be resurrected to undergo judgment. I don't see how the lake of fire can burn out the carnal mind after the resurrection, as the carnal mind exists in the soulish state, not the resurrected state???.
It seems to me the carnal mind is alive in the "soulish man", and satan can only feed on it while we are dust (flesh). Seems to me the resurrection has nothing to do with the carnal soulish being resurrected?
would appreciate any help.
eutychus:
hey rocky,
me personally i do think there will be different ranks.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
name=name, i.e. for one's rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc
Mickyd:
I put together a post a couple of weeks back and didn't get much of a responce. I actually think it may help...
http://forums.bible-truths.com/viewtopic.php?t=596
eutychus:
--- Quote from: Mickyd ---I put together a post a couple of weeks back and didn't get much of a responce. I actually think it may help...
http://forums.bible-truths.com/viewtopic.php?t=596
--- End quote ---
that was excellent!!
i am going to have to use some of it :wink:
nicely laid out!!!
peace
chuckt
chrissiela:
Didn't Christ come to tell us how we might obtain 'eternal life'?
So what IS eternal life?
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.[/list:u]
He said:
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.[/list:u]
I have come to the point where I almost never look at the NATURAL/PHYSICAL application of the scriptures.... but how they lead to LIFE (Christ).
Christ came to give LIFE to the DEAD. And we are all DEAD apart from Him.
2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all DEAD:[/list:u]
So if I look at those verses in light of how the DEAD are raised and with what BODY are they raised... I am not looking at the PHYSICALLY DEAD... but those that are VOID of the SPIRIT. How are THEY raised?
Are they not CLOTHED WITH Christ? (corruption PUTTING ON incorruption; mortality PUTTING ON immortality).
Only Christ is IMMORTAL and only Christ saw NO CORRUPTION. So I see that as PUTTING ON or BEING CLOTHED with CHRIST.
I see it as an OLD man (creature) vs NEW man (creature)... being RE-born in order to enter into the kingdom.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial (heavenly, walking in the spirit :?: ) bodies, and bodies terrestrial (earthly... walking in the flesh :?: ): but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. (The stars are held in His right hand.)
1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.[/list:u]
The OLD MAN (outward man) being our 'natural' body - that which walks in the flesh and the NEW MAN (INWARD MAN - CHRIST) being that which walks in the spirit. :shock: :?: Being raised WITH CHRIST and seated WITH HIM in the heavens. Being 'changed' from a NATURAL man to a SPIRITUAL man. :?:
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. (ref 1Co 15:41 above)[/list:u]
IS, WAS, AND WILL BE!!! :wink:
Let's not forget the IS and WAS... looking only at the WILL BE. :lol: :lol:
Blessings,
Chrissie
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