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I Corinthians 15:40
Daniel:
THIS IS what I was asking on the other post. MORTAL "PUTS IT ON" THATS what I'm looking at too Chrissie
Peter knew to say PUT OFF "THIS tabernacle" (which IS MORTAL) Yet Paul says, "THIS MORTAL[/u] must PUT ON IMMORTALITY[/u]. The wording shows they know to say what they mean here.
THIS corruptible must PUT ON incorruptible,
Christ IS BOTH incorruptible and immortal and we are to "PUT ON HIM". To be CLOTHED with CHRIST. This all after the divine nature we are made partakers of (meekneess, humillity, gentlleness etc) incorruptible fruit (nature) after a spiritual truth. Our life is HID "in Him" and HIS LIFE (Immortal, incorruptible) is "to be MANIFESTED" IN our MORTAL BODY.
Mortal puts this on, its sown in corruption itself and raised incorruptible. This is what I'm seeing in these verses as it seems to confirm these things in every place mentioned. Death seems like a "state of being" of carnality in mindset, which is death already. Which death is it speaking of, I'm seeing this not even talking about the death of the body at all. But the passing over from death unto life as a switch between what goes on in unseen realms of where we are abiding.
Daniel
chrissiela:
Yes, Daniel, I saw that in your other post after I wrote here. I must have missed it before.
It is our body that seems to be 'quickened' by the spirit (and the last Adam was made a quickening spirit) So that we can walk no longer after the lusts of the flesh but walk WITH HIM. [-o<
I don't think that this 'disagrees' with BT's :?: Just looking at it more in the way of the IS, WAS AND WILL BE (instead of only that which is still 'to come') :wink:
God is not the God of the DEAD, but of the LIVING.... but Christ is Lord OVER BOTH.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.[/list:u]
He rose AND revived (seems sort of redundant, don't it?? :lol: )... not sure of what that means, why it's put that way??? :shock:
HE was LIFTED UP on the cross and RESURRRECTED from the grave?? Or HE rose FROM THE DEAD... and QUICKENS (revives) us??? Still don't have a good handle on that verse. :lol: :lol:
But I DO KNOW that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but Christ has a body of FLESH AND BONE (His church, His body.... drinking in HIS pure blood)
We are no longer endebted to the flesh and walking in bondage, but FREED from sin and death.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are NOT IN THE FLESH, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.[/list:u]
Are we not then "resurrected FROM THE DEAD" when we receive Christ? Even now?
We have received the earnest of the spirit and been given LIFE!!
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
2Co 5:5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.[/list:u]
Blessings,
Chrissie
Steve Crook:
Mat 22:29-32
(29) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
(30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
(31) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
(32) I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Act 24:14-15
(14) But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
(15) And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust[/b][/i].
Rom 1:4-6
(4) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
(5) By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name;
(6) Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
1Co 15:12-14
(12) Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
(13) But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
(14) And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1Co 15:40-48
(40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(43) It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
(45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
(46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
(47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
(48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
Phi 3:8-14
(8) Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
(9) And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
(10) That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
(11) If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
(12) Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
(13) Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
(14) I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Heb 6:1-3
(1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
(2) Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
(3) And this will we do, if God permit. (Ressurrection of the dead is but MILK? We should know this PRINCIPLE of the doctrine of Christ before we move on to the meat and perfection?)
1Pe 1:3-5
(3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
(4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
(5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Rev 20:5
(5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
chrissiela:
--- Quote from: Steve Crook ---Mat 22:29-32
(29) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
(30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
(31) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
(32) I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
--- End quote ---
AMEN!! They neither marry, nor are given in marriage for they are ESPOUSED to ONE husband – Christ. His church, His body, His BRIDE!!
--- Quote ---Act 24:14-15
(14) But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
(15) And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust[/b][/i].
--- End quote ---
Amen again!! ALL are resurrected and given LIFE… both the just and the unjust. … each in his own order.
--- Quote ---Rom 1:4-6
(4) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
(5) By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name;
(6) Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
--- End quote ---
Yes…. Endowed with the POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Rom 15:13 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
Batized in FIRE.
--- Quote ---1Co 15:12-14
(12) Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
(13) But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
(14) And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
--- End quote ---
AMEN… We are ALL dead and must ALL be resurrected. There HAS to be a RESURRECTION; if there is none than Christ is not risen and neither will we be.
--- Quote ---1Co 15:40-48
(40) There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
(41) There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
(42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
(43) It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
(44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
(45) And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
(46) Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
(47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
(48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
--- End quote ---
YEP!! :wink:
--- Quote ---Phi 3:8-14
(8) Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
(9) And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
(10) That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
(11) If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
(12) Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
(13) Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
(14) I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
--- End quote ---
ABSOLUTELY!!! The knowledge OF CHRIST JESUS. To now HIM and the POWER of His resurrection, which is the HOLY GHOST. It is by this same POWER that Christ was able to lay down His own life and take it up again.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
--- Quote ---Heb 6:1-3
(1) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
(2) Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
(3) And this will we do, if God permit. (Ressurrection of the dead is but MILK? We should know this PRINCIPLE of the doctrine of Christ before we move on to the meat and perfection?)
--- End quote ---
AMEN AGAIN!! :D We must have CHRIST… IN US… and be partakers of HIS LIFE to even be able to RECEIVE the MEAT. WE must GROW and MATURE and MOVE ON to perfection… IN HIM.
--- Quote ---1Pe 1:3-5
(3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
(4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
(5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
--- End quote ---
INDEED!!!! The kingdom of God is at hand and we must all PRESS INTO IT. God willing, of course. :wink:
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
--- Quote ---Rev 20:5
(5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
--- End quote ---
Amen…. and blessed and holy is he who takes part in the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Great scriptures!!!
Blessings,
Chrissie
(edited to recapture Steve’s original formatting :oops: )
Steve Crook:
I have the same problem chrissie, I posted 3 times, lol... I had to delete 2 of them...PHP errors again today it seems...
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