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Love with out truth: kill or lies.
cjwood:
love without truth lies; truth without love kills.
this is what has happened to my marriage.
married to an unbeliever who was unfaithful.
lies and deception killed the love.
17 yrs worth.
claudia
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Rene on October 08, 2008, 07:31:27 AM ---When we care about someone, our emotions get all entangled with expectations and when those expectations are not met, our pride and ego can get in the way.
René
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I think many times it is not that people [ WHO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH or WHO GOD HAS NOT SHOWED THE TRUTH YET ] doesn't want to met our expectations [ TO SHARE PHILEO LOVE WITH US] it's just that [ WHEN THERE IS NOT REAL TRUTH IN BETWEEN] they can not. And then [ AFTER REALIZE THIS ] i have seen that place where my pride had arise, not anymore on disappointment [ SINCE I DON'T EXPECT THEM TO UNDERSTAND ME ] but by making ideals on them that doesn't exist [ LIKE SUPPOSING THAT THEY STILL UNDERSTAND ME EVEN WHEN OUR PRIORITIES AND BELIEVES ARE SO DIFFERENT ] (maybe [ I HAVE DONE THIS ] on fear of loosing everything that I used to thought that we shared [ WHEN IN REALITY WAS A RELATIONSHIP BASED ON LIES AND MY OWN ILUSSIONS ]).
Maybe like those teenager lovers where one is giving so much [ TRYING TO LOVE PHILEO ], looking signs where there is none and having in high that girl that in reality doesn't really care about you and who you really are.[ HERE WOULD BE WHERE JUST AGAPE LOVE WOULD FIT].
My point is to pray to be able to see others as a whole [ TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO WE MUST LOVE PHILEO AND AGAPE AND WHO WE MUST LOVE WITH JUST AGAPE LOVE ] so we can stop sheeting our self's about ( trying to phileo loving ) people around us who are simply walking trough another paths. [ i AM NOT THERE YET, BUT MY GOAL IS TO GET CLOSER TO THIS AS HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HERE ]
Marlene, I really like what you said about uplift just people who stand for the truth, , I also enjoyed your whole post.
[ THIS BY NO MEANS IS SAYING THAT WE CAN'T NOT APPRECIATE, GIVE WITH OUT EXPECTING BACK AND SEE LIFE IN OTHERS WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE LIKE US]
love with out truth kills and true love also kills [IT KILLS MANY OF OUR SELFISH MOTIVATIONS]
moises
ps.with out this forum, it would be many times harder to try to go against the current of this sea of greedy people (including me sometimes a day) and don't walk into depressive loneliness.
Akira329:
One of my many issues is pride.
When I was younger, my friends and some family members would always come to me if they were in need.
I had a listening ear and a trusting voice I guess. They would tell me secrets that I'm sure no one else would dare to share out loud.
But I'm experiencing something quite the opposite these days, it seems I'm the one in need the most and its killing me!! When friends extend their hand to me, I push it back. Even in their times of need I find myself thinking of me more, when will my needs be met.
It would seem love is becoming harder for me to do when I'm in this condition, but I know God wants me to overcome it.
Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I'm brought to my knees quite often.
Antaiwan
Marlene:
Moises and Claudia ,
I want to share something with both of you. I was raised with quite strict morals. I met a boy we were around 20. At the time I did not know he was recovery from drug addiction. I believe now God had a plan for us to meet. I say it was love at first sight. If, it had not been when I found out I would have been long gone. I was alreay in love. I grew close to his mother. We lived in different towns and only got to see each other on weekends. We took turns staying at each others parents. His Mother told me that Doug that is his name
told her I was not like anyone he ever dated. Now, this is hard to say but I want to for a point. One, night he forced me against my wishes. I was crying and all upset. He just did not get it that this meant the world to me to save myself for marriage. I stayed with him out of Love and obligation to him. I had never loved like this in my life. Latter, on his Mother told me of things he was doing to me. He began to slip up and came down to my place on drugs. I was living with a girlfriend then because we worked in another town. I showed him over and over love. But, we got into a huge fight over it. My love changed instanly. He said, "You will love me till the day you die. He use to tell me my love scared him , and I was strange. He came back a few weeks latter and told me he was sorry that he told me I was strange and scary and other things. Then a few weeks after we broke up he come down and told me he was sorry and that he hoped he could love like me some day. I am sure God wanted him to loose me now that I see the whole picture. Cause, that did not change my mind. Even, he admitted he didnt know how to love. He did not know how so he did not love me. I believe now what the bible says"Love Never Fails". I always wondered what happened with him. When he died, I found out. He became a minister. He was 51 years old. His death led me in here. He had articles online he wrote. At, the time he was Seven Day Adventist. He latter left because he has issues with doctrines in chruches. This led me to questioning my believes even more then before. He was right I will love him till I die. However, god had a plan. He gave me the man who could take my brokeness and heal it. I have been married to him for 29 years now. Again, I say "Love Never Fails" I have been blessed to have loved two men. One seemed like it failed and the other has not. Even if it seems it fails we just might not know the ending of it all.
Love
Marlene
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Akira329 on October 14, 2008, 11:35:16 AM ---One of my many issues is pride.
When I was younger, my friends and some family members would always come to me if they were in need.
I had a listening ear and a trusting voice I guess. They would tell me secrets that I'm sure no one else would dare to share out loud.
But I'm experiencing something quite the opposite these days, it seems I'm the one in need the most and its killing me!! When friends extend their hand to me, I push it back. Even in their times of need I find myself thinking of me more, when will my needs be met.
It would seem love is becoming harder for me to do when I'm in this condition, but I know God wants me to overcome it.
Proverbs 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I'm brought to my knees quite often.
Antaiwan
--- End quote ---
Lately i have been in some times of needs too, it does seems to be harder to give since we can be self absorbed so easy,
maybe this could be times to be aware the most and try to take any opportunity we get to give (even if its very little) , maybe ones we overcome this desert, we will be able to give a lot more.
I wonder, what does that 40 day's (of Jesus) could really mean?
moises
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