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Ricky:
Hello everyone, It appears that if you are not chosen, God, the bible, and this web site will be of no use to anyone that God has not already chosen. This web site appears to be for the chosen only, and if that is so I do not belong here, because I do not believe that I am one of the chosen, impossible, with 6 billion people in this world there is no chance I am one of the few. So why do I believe what Ray teaches and keep coming back here every day. If I believe that I am not one of the chosen, then it does not matter how I live my life, because I can do nothing about the outcome of my death, and where I will end up. God has already taken care of that. One thing I have never done in life, is go after something I cannot have or get, it`s a waste of time. God would not pick someone like me, for this highest calling. I can almost see God moving Satan back into my life for the kill. Sure hope I am wrong. It seems like life was created for the chosen only and everyone else, life is just dust in the wind.
Bless you all, and maybe good luck Ricky. :'(
hillsbororiver:
Hi Ricky,
Let's not forget who is called by God, we don't know who is or who isn't chosen.
1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 And base things of the world and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are:
1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
Are you saying God is powerless to bring you to him?
Peace,
Joe
Martinez:
Mat 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
Mat 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
Mat 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Ricky, We are not here because We are the cream of the crop, we're here because the rest of the world are not.
You're attitude is one of self sufficiency which is at the heart of all religion such as that displayed here.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Ricky:
Hello Joe, You are right, we do not know who is chosen and who is not, and we never will. So what do we do, live out our lives believing we are the elect. Joe you ask if I am saying that God is powerless to bring me to Him, you are talking in the now, or future tense. If God has not already predetermined if I am to be the elect , He cannot change that decision because He does not change. So the answer is yes He cannot bring me to Him now or in the future. This is how I see it. It is almost like saying, Belief is a wise wager, if you gain, you gain all, but if you lose you lose nothing.
Ricky
Kat:
Hi Ricky,
It is predetermined, but we do not know which way it is determined. None by what they have to offer can qualify for that high calling. It is only accomplished by the Holy Spirit indwelling. So it is not vanity to seek to be in the first resurrection, but certainly a good endeavor. If we do make it then what great joy to be among those who have obtained that high calling. But even if we don't make it, surely we have learned and gained some degree of righteousness in our striving for it. And I think that will be a big help in going throught the lake of fire, because learning righteousness is the purpose of the lake of fire.
Isa 26:9 With my soul I have desired You in the night,
Yes, by my spirit within me I will seek You early;
For when Your judgments are in the earth,
The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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