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Richard D:
I feel very distraught at the difficulty of the process of being saved. It seems as if God has made it almost unattainable!!!

The process of being saved is one big if with God which frightens me because I’m not perfect and because I have been subjected to vanity by God. I am carnal and sold under sin and not by my choice.

I’ am weak and not perfect but imperfect and being imperfect I can not trust my fallen nature to live up to the standards of God for the ability I find is not in me. As much as I would like to, I can not will myself to do righteousness can I?

I will be saved if I abide in Christ until the end if indeed the spirit of God is in me but now I read this scripture Heb 10: 26-27

Heb 10:26  For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27  but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and a fierceness of fire which shall devour the adversaries.

Well this scripture says it all, so there can be no more sacrifice for me if I sin willfully but I am carnal and cannot guarantee I will not sin willfully because I am weak. What happens if I overcome any sin in my life and then commit that sin again? Now I read this scripture, 2 pet 1:9-

2Pe 1:9  For he that lacketh these things is blind, seeing only what is near, having forgotten the cleansing from his old sins.

I don’t have free will and I’m right where God wants me to be and I cannot do anything outside of God’s purpose but now I read this scripture 2 Pet 1:10

2Pe 1:10  Wherefore, brethren, give the more diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never stumble:

Now I see it’s up to me a sinner sold under sin by being subjected to vanity have to make my own salvation sure and IF I do these things I won’t stumble.

So Jesus die for my sins but if I don’t repent of my sins then I am dead in my sins but I am sold under sin. I feel my back is against a rock and a hard place.

Christendom makes heaven easily obtainable with all there lies but I see God’s truth makes heaven barely obtainable with His truths.

I finally realize what Paul meant when he said woe is me. Jesus said for us to count the cost, it seems to me the cost is greater than my sinful nature can pay. Please don’t take me wrong, God is good no doubts about that but there are too many ifs to feel secure.  I know God is aware of all these things I feel inwardly because God put them there to begin with. So it all comes down to me like this, either God saves me or I save myself.

But I already know I cannot save myself but I also know I can become saved if I this or if I that but there is always and if as if I have to save myself.

I apologize if I have upset you or in some way hurt your faith as this was not my intention but it’s a difficult thing to feel everything is fine between God and me one day and the next day to feel different.

I see myself as a yoyo never really knowing my end, its like do all these things and then see if you made it. I starting to think the odds of winning the state lottery for billions of dollars are in ones favor than becoming saved by God.

                                                  Richard.

Martinez:

Hey Richard!

He has made it unattainable for you!

The only person who can attain it is Christ!

1Co 1:27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co 1:29  That no flesh should glory in his presence.
1Co 1:30  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Co 1:31  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

Ninny:
Richard I see you're having a bad day :'( Don't worry you're not alone! If salvation were impossible to attain then Jesus must have given his life in vain! I don't think so! :o Remember Ray says it's an ongoing process. It's not get saved, screw up, get saved again and on and on! That's a big fat lie! It's you (and all of us) asking forgiveness, screwing up, asking forgiveness, and so on until we are perfected! You know that will take a really long time! Was ANYONE in Scripture good NO not one, not Moses, not Abraham, certainly not David, What about the disciples were they perfect Nooooo! Not by a long shot! So why would God expect you to be perfect ???

It's your willingness to let God drag you around until you're perfect! Obedience is you crawling back to God asking Him to help you to stay out of the sin, if you see something that looks like sin to you RUN!!!  :D
Now you are too important to God and us to start believing a lying devil!  >:( Now get out there and FIGHT!! Oh sorry I got a little carried away! ;)
Now be sweet! ;)
Kathy :)

Ninny:
Oh, Sorry Martin, I'm glad you reminded him (and me) that it's Jesus who does it because we aren't qualified!
I meant that! We can only let God do it and we follow as He drags! :D
  :-[ Kathy

Martinez:

No, I am the one who is sorry!

I should have responded with a little more compassion instead of the robot like rapid fire "this is protocol" type response.

Sorry Richard!

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