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Ricky:
Kathy, there is nothing wrong with what you have posted, people are adding jokes and nonsense to what someone has learned from Ray, I do not think that is funny, what does the bible say about vain talk and vain imagination's. Joe, would I not be attempting to change the atmosphere here with, nonsense talk and scripture not going together ? Hate? on the internet, sorry Joe, my nature does not work that way, it is impossible for me to hate someone over the net, now that is funny!! lol
Ricky
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: EKnight on November 23, 2008, 10:24:29 AM ---Joe,
where are the peacemakers, not the one's who might call themself a peacemaker but who do actively seek understanding, a common ground and speak softly without pride and ego being front and center.
In answer to your above stated question, IMO, those people have stopped posting and I for one miss their calming words and insight.
Eileen
--- End quote ---
Hi Eileen,
They have likely become weary of being posted over (ignored) with little to no contemplation of the words they have written out of experience and the love they have for what they have been given.
Too many here of late only appear to seek contention and confrontation, they perceive that they have an audience and desire the approval and the applause of men.
Patience and longsuffering are only for others to exercise.......
His Peace to you Sister,
Joe
Beloved:
Eileen
When I understand Jesus' words in the Aramaic, (Matthew was written in this language originally) The word translate more like this:
A heavenly attitude is theirs (touveyhoun); those serving (abdey) the peace of God (shlama); they will be called the children of God (Alaha).
Christianity is not passive but active, energetic, alive, going beyond despair.
Many people have PM me and are upset with all the incessant self absorbed gibberish that has recently appeared on the board. It is not an easy thing to stand and respond to it without sounding offensive. Some members do not feel that they are ready to do this .....yet.
beloved
Marlene:
Hello All: I feel sick about this. It is hard to explain yourself on here. But, I never did feel in place in Babylon Churches. One, I never did believe in tithe. I never could afford it, nor did I believe if I gave I would get. When, the Lord drew me I was at home alone with him. My husband came home from work to find out that the Lord had come and I repented my sin. What, I was trying to say is it possible the things the Lord did for me was happening then cause he was going to call me out. Also, his parent separated and his mother and sister got into a church and talked us into going. We went but never was active in it. Later years we did some things, but never that active. I never believed the trinity was true. We belonged to a little church of not many members.
I never was invovled in a large church. When, I found Rays website I had not been to church for over a year. I had no intentions on going back. My Mother and Husband do not go either. I took Ray's paper on Trinity and showed it to both my husband and mother. They both said,"It never made sense."
I showed them his paper on tithe. They agreed it was true. My Mother told me she never did believe in Hell. My Mother always believe in God and obeyed and believed prayer worked.
I guess, what I am trying to says is I wonder how many don't believe all they are taught there? While, I was there it just all began to feel like kids playing.
I know, I had idols of the heart. We all do. I was always shy and I could sing. Finally, I started doing that in church. But, I got tired of that too. During that year alone with God not going to church. He shaped my life all alone. Without, any church , even with out knowing about Ray. I began a search, about different believes in the churches and they looked like total confusion to me. I began to think who could be saved. I began to hate hell. I felt in a hell in my mind. I believe most of this is my fault on here. I did not express what I was saying well. I just really am heart sick over it.
Well, I begged God for his truths and he led me to Ray's Website. For the first time I felt like I found my place. I have no attentions of going back where I came from. I have been set free. I was just wondering, if some could be like me. I mean thinking things are not right in Babylon's churches but just have not come out yet. I mean I do believe God can move in there spirit at anytime and be working on them.
I am not trying to teach. I know I have only been on here a few months. I did read his papers for a year before joining. I have never caused division even in Babylons churches I kept my mouth shut. Well, I will continue to post on the prayer and introduction sight. I will keep my mouth shut and try and learn from your post on topics. I never have had much pride. I never thought I was anything special anyways. All, I know is I believe the truths Ray presents cause they are in the scripture and makes sense to me. I have no desire to go back to that. But, I do have compassion on all the loss. I have Love.
Well, I hope you all understand and know I never meant for any of this to happen. I am not angry with anyone.
In His Love,
Marlene
Marlene:
Joe, I feel your love. I have often talked to you and felt you were trying your best kindly to help me understand. I think alot of this comes from lack of voice and in seeing ones expressions. I just want to learn and grow. I know in alot ways I have grown. I guess coming out of Babylon just gives me such a feeling of compassion on the lost. I mean the whole world is deceived, except for the elect. I know it is Gods plan, but I am sure we will be using compassion if we are chosen.
In His Love,
Marlene
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