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rev 3:20
Marlene:
Wow Joe I was reading that last night. Pretty tired. That was good you caught that. I know he has given me plenty of wake up calls over the years. He has always been patient with me. I have not always heeded the call because I was not hearing his voice while in sin. But, he never gives up on us. I also, remember Ray talking about that in one of his papers.
In His Love,
Marlene
AK4:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 26, 2008, 11:22:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: dewey on November 25, 2008, 08:25:15 PM ---
Recognize that God will only call each human being once. Therefore, you are responsible now for the knowledge that you are being given. If one does not act on what he is learning, God will take that understanding away (Rom. 2:13; Psa.111:10), and such a person is in a grave spiritual condition.
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Hi Dewey,
Do you happen to have any scriptural witnesses to attest to this proclaimation? I see you have Rom 2:13 & Psa 111:10 next to your statement but I can't make it fit with the conclusion you wrote. "Recognize that God will only call each human being once."
Here are the verses you quoted;
Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth forever.
I agree that we are admonished to use what we are given for good but to say that God only calls once or gives only one chance to be purged and perfected is not what the scriptures actually say;
Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies and do good and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Luk 6:37 Judge not and ye shall not be judged: condemn not and ye shall not be condemned: forgive and ye shall be forgiven:
Above we have the Words of our Lord telling us the boundless mercy of our God, there are many more that attest to His patience and longsuffering, here are just a couple;
Psa 86:15 But thou, O Lord, art a God full of compassion, and gracious, longsuffering and plenteous in mercy and truth.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
In Revelation we have Christ rebuking the Church of Ephesus but holding the door open for her to return to Him;
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen and repent and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
And repent they/we will! Either now or in the next age, it will happen.
When Peter asked our Lord how many times he should forgive another person Jesus said;
Mat 18:21 Then came Peter to him and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mat 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Does God expect us to be more patient, longsuffering and forgiving than He is willing to be?
Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Peace,
Joe
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Just to add to Joes post
Pr 24:16 - For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Marlene & Anthony (excellent addition by the way),
Thanks for responding and here are a couple more verses in this vein;
Neh 9:28 But after they had rest, they did evil again before thee: therefore leftest thou them in the hand of their enemies, so that they had the dominion over them: yet when they returned and cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and many times didst thou deliver them according to thy mercies;
Job 33:29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,
Job 33:30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.
Peace,
Joe
EKnight:
I'm sure it has been mentioned a hundred times before and I searched before I decided to post so don't everyone jump on me.
I know what happens to the "called" and the "called and Chosen" but what about the NOT Called?? Are they in the LOF/White Throne Judgment/2nd Resurrection with the "Many Called"? And does this all happen on the "Day of the Lord"? Simultaneously/all at once?
It's actually my husband's question.
Eileen
dewey:
Hi, Joe and Marques
and you guys were right, that was a bad choice of scriptures that I used. I'm gonna post a few scriptures here, just to have something to ponder over:
Matthew 5:13
Matthew 7:19
Matthew 10:14
NE 5:13
And here's somethin' to think about too: (Matthew 18:17) says they searched the scriptures hoping that that would save them. Do we really need scripture proof of everything that has been revealed to each other and things that come from your heart? Some things just can't be explained or put into words - it's just a "feeling" from the heart. And isn't that where it comes from?
I once read in one of Ray's papers that when you're given a spiritual revelation hang on to it.
Okay, guys, just wanted to reply to your posts and verse my opinion back; but we won't let this conversation get into one of those argumentative stages. so with that said, this will be our last post on this subject.
Love y'ans in Christs' name
Dewey & Paula
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