Thank you Arc,
We have had lengthy discussions on this forum as to whether any of the Babylon churches teach any truth! And as Ray himself brought out in his reference to Phil. 1:15-18 Yes. Where else could any of us have learned about Christ? That is what the church is supposed to do! Too bad that the church couldn't have been satisfied with sticking to just the marvelous truths of God and had to go and insert their own doctrines, the commandments of men!
You can find Christ in many of the Christian churches, but if you're looking for a church to belong to (essentially they all teach those human commandments), if you're hungry for more, and you know God has truth that is not being taught or outright being denied, then I think that's evidence that God is calling you out of the whole system! Remember, not if they don't teach ALL the truth, but if they deny ANY of the truth they are not qualified to be your church! Now will you find a church that teaches the truth of God and not deny any of the truth? Not very likely!
That's how I see it after looking at the Scriptures the way Ray teaches, it's not just "believing what Ray teaches" it's believing what the Scriptures
actually say.
Ray is a man he's human and he can make mistakes! He freely admits if he is wrong on anything he is not saying "If you don't believe the way I teach then you are cursed!" that's what the church really teaches. Ray says, "If you don't believe what the Scriptures say then you are denying that God is sovereign!"
That's the way I see it!
Kathy