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Man came from a rock
daywalker:
--- Quote from: gmik on December 19, 2008, 09:11:54 AM ---Getting back to Atheists, I just saw this bumper sticker....
Atheists believe there is NO God,
but HE is responsible for all the crap!!!!
--- End quote ---
Haha, that's funny...
Ironically, I've never met a 'true' Atheist myself. Every time I've ever had a conversation with an 'alleged' one, it turns out they are really "Agnostic". Most don't even know what "Atheist" means.
-Daywalker
David:
I've had some conversations with athiests and read some of them too. Most of their objections to Christianity are based on orthodox doctrine, and often spurious twistings of orthodox doctrine. Were their objections based on orthodox doctrine alone, that would be bad enough, but to actually twist something thats twisted in the first place.......their objections are based on lies upon lies. Its understandable why they think Christianity is a bunch of nonsense, most of it thats taught is.
aqrinc:
Ok lots of opinions here, there is much more to the Creation than just Earth and Humans.
Just stop for a moment and think, according to our new understanding from Ray and Science
the Earth is at least 4.5+ billion years old, the universe 16+ billion years old. If we let God out
of the box of our mind ??? what could He not Do with the millions of other Galaxies he Created. ???
Just my two cents; The Scriptures say that most of what Jesus Christ did was not written
in books as the whole world could not contain the information.
We do not need to shut down our minds when the Scriptures Declare that:
Psalms 19:1:
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork.
Psalms 50:6:
And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.
Psalms 97:6:
The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.
Proverbs 8:24-31
24-When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25-Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26-While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27-When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass on the face of the depth:
28-When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29-When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed
the foundations of the earth:
30-Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31-Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
John 21:25:
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one,
I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
John 20: 30-31
30-And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31-But these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing
you might have life through his name.
Romans 8:22
For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
george. ;D
David:
--- Quote from: aqr on December 19, 2008, 03:37:58 PM ---
Ok lots of opinions here, there is much more to the Creation than just Earth and Humans.
Just stop for a moment and think, according to our new understanding from Ray and Science
the Earth is at least 4.5+ billion years old, the universe 16+ billion years old. If we let God out
of the box of our mind ??? what could He not Do with the millions of other Galaxies he Created. ???
Just my two cents; The Scriptures say that most of what Jesus Christ did was not written
in books as the whole world could not contain the information.
We do not need to shut down our minds when the Scriptures Declare that:
Psalms 19:1:
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork.
Psalms 50:6:
And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.
Psalms 97:6:
The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.
Proverbs 8:24-31
24-When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25-Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26-While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27-When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass on the face of the depth:
28-When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29-When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed
the foundations of the earth:
30-Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31-Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
John 21:25:
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one,
I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
John 20: 30-31
30-And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31-But these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing
you might have life through his name.
Romans 8:22
For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
george. ;D
--- End quote ---
This is a great post George. The understanding of the age of the earth and the age of the universe is nothing new. I was taught it in school, and its often taught in science programs etc. What was a total revelation was how the scriptures contained these facts about Gods universe for thousands of years.
David:
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on December 19, 2008, 11:14:10 AM ---This is just a thought. I am on the Creators side but someone
mentioned this is what we are taught from our first year in
school, and this is true, but the why is the most shocking
proof of how ignorant our education system and society has
become.
Ben Stein made a movie called "Expelled" and that movie tells just
why we have evolution taught and the idea of Intelligent
Design is "expelled" from grade school, high school, and college
and science. Just incase you maybe interested.
--- End quote ---
The main reason that the accademic world has rejected teaching intelligent design and creation science in schools and colleges is because its usually linked to the premise that the earth is 6000 years old. I wouldn't want my child to be taught such nonsense.
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