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judith collier:
Thamks Brenda and Kat. Sometimes one feels like they are all alone, so this has helped. Many people don't talk about their troubles and consequently a person thinks "what did I do to deserve this"  I think Brenda said something about "dividing the word" and that is my goal so that I will be studying more. And self control is not my shining virtue but it is getting better, I can let go easier and I do trust God more than I used to. I was just so afraid I missed what I was supposed to do and many things I didn't do because of fear and figured if I hadn't been so afraid I would have had a blessed life but that is not neccessarily so. God would have found me anywhere and finished His works in me. And boy, did he have a lot to do! I am one who needs much good teaching and when I get it(and I seem to know the truth when I hear it) I do go with it. Most of what I know is self taught and Spirit led but that is not the smartest way all the time for we need each other and different perspectives reminding us what is true, so thanks again guys. I think I got it now(at least this part) (chuckle) I'll probably carry on some more in the future though, it's never ending with me. Judy

aqrinc:

Hi Judith,

Here is one of the best answers from another member; quite eye opening for many.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,9021.msg75379.html#msg75379 post #9

george. :)

Deborah-Leigh:
That post from Alex #9 really shows the light.

Dennis Vogel:

--- Quote from: Fester on December 27, 2008, 08:11:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: aqr on December 27, 2008, 05:44:20 PM ---
Sorry to be the grinch but the reason we are here is because we have been pulled from there.
Hope to get your attention; why do we keep going back to where we have been dragged from.

Revelation of John 14:8:
And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she
made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Revelation of John 18:2:
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become
the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 

Revelation of John 18:4:
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers
of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

george. :( :'(



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Well George, I see it a little differently.  My wife and children love to go to church (Baptist) and are all caught up in it.  I go with them as we are family, and as such, we try and do things together.  I print off a few of Ray's papers and read them during the service.  It is great reading time!  So although I am physically in church I do not partake of her.  I speak with my family now and then about the things that I have learned but I do not force it on them.  I hope those little seeds will grow within them.  Coming to the truth was a process for me and I realize that it will be for them as well.  So spiritually I am out of her and hope to rescue my family from her too.  Hopefully, the day will come where we will just stay home and study as a family.  So we cannot just think of ourselves all the time but our loved ones as well.  So let's not be too harsh on the church goers as they may also have reasons valid to them to still attend.  Plus we don't know where they are in their spiritual development/learning.  But we do know God will pull us out at His appointed time.
Wes
 
P.S. They don't have Bibles in the pews but do have a few spares for those who may request one.
 


--- End quote ---

Fester, the day will come when you cannot get out of that building fast enough. It's not the "church goers" as you say, but the system, the false doctrines, the outright heresy being taught to decent people (blind sheep) that will run you out.

God will drag you out of that building sooner or later. Just a matter of time. But don't expect you family to give it up.

Those of us who have been around for a few years cringe at the thought of sitting through a church service (again, it's not the people). It's like water and oil, we do not mix.

Dennis

Ninny:
Dennis, that is so true! Talk about feeling out of place! Yes even though the people are precious, you have a hard time trying to tell anyone that you have nothing against the people! Everyone always assumes you have been offended by someone and that's why you left!  :'(
Kathy :(

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