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judith collier:
Thanks guys, it's just been several days with a lot of pain and feel like I can't take anymore. Nothing deathly serious just such difficulty walking and doing the things I have to do. Once in a great while inflammation flares up and so I guess it is time for prednisone which I hate to take, trying to weather it out. All will be o.k. eventually here. Thanks

indianabob:
Dear Friend Judith,

I can relate to your gnawing pain.

I am scheduled for knee replacement surgery next Friday, not looking forward to it.
However, the surgeon says stop all arthritis medication a week before surgery except for what I have given you for pain.  (it's tylenol with a little codeine)  So, I had to stop Prednisone which has worked pretty well.

Now my knee is swollen every day can't walk on it and I can't sleep more than a couple of hours.

So, I guess the fear of surgery is less than the desire to have it over with a.s.a.p.     >:(

However, Jesus and many others to a lesser degree suffered for much longer and not for their faith but just because of circumstances.  Jesus knew why he suffered, it was for us.  Now we are learning to suffer for someone else too.

I know that your personal circumstances lead to suffering for someone else close to you and so I think that I can understand just a little of what you are going through. 

It isnt' easy and it won't get any better most of the time, but if it has purpose then maybe it is like carrying a baby to full term and then having a long term delivery.  Once the baby is here, only the joy of a new life remains in our minds in most cases.  We are similar in that we will be the NEW LIFE and will never again have to suffer physically in the same sense that we do in this life.  I think it is a worthwhile goal and I tell myself that it is good because it gives me a better, more realistic understanding of what others have suffered.
How could I understand otherwise?

Love and a big hug for you and yours.
Indiana Bob

judith collier:
Marques. Linny, Bob, you guys got this suffering thing down really good. I have always practiced living in the present, I guess it's time to think more of eternity and this life does go by fast. I think I focus on the problems more than I do on God and this is my own doing. I have my mental priorities wrong. Will remember everything you said. I did notice last night after spending many hours here and reading that really confusing Revelations that I feel somewhat better today, my focus was on God not me, it must have helped. Prayers are with you Bob for your knees surgery, so when I am in pain I will pray and remember you too. Thanks to all for bearing with me and your patience, (such a sign of God's love)

Marlene:
Hello, I would like to add a thought. I suffer some days lightly and some imensley. But, over a time of years of this almost daily, I find that it is what keeps me so close to God. My staying close to God and dependent on him. This gives him all the glory. I cannot glory in myself. I never thought I would ever get to that point. But, now I thank him for all things. I even thank him when I fall. I believe, also that this builds up our trust in him.  Not every one suffers physcial pain, there are many ways of suffering. He knows what to use to keep us where he wants us.

I wish you well Bob on your knees surgery and will keep you in my prayers. I also, will keep you in my prayers Judith.


In His Love,
Marlene

Phil3:10:
Judith Collier and Indiana Bob,
My thoughts and prayers are with you both. No suffering is fun but most of us are blessed beyond belief. All we need do is just look around and see the sufferings of so many others.  I am coming off shoulder surgery and it was not so bad. However, the rehab is a real pain and is going to last for awhile.
CHRIST did ask us to share in the fellowship of HIS suffering and HIS suffering should make each of us feel blessed beyond belief. My constant  prayer is that HE will not bring more suffering but as I continue to age I am afraid more suffering is ahead. I have not yet learned how to rejoice in suffering but pray that our LORD will prepare me for same.
I do pray that I might have the pleasure of suffering for HIS names sake. Of course, my fleshly side prays that it is not to painful. We all live in the present when we should all look to the future and the relief from all suffering.
In HIM,
Phil3:10

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