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cjwood:
oy dave,
what the heck is prog music ???. your "more serious" reply to mbwa was inspiring, even to someone who has no idea what prog music is.
claudia
Dave in Tenn:
What is termed 'progressive' music (rock especially--aka PROG) is characterized by time signatures other than the usual 3/4 and 4/4, or of changes in time signature (frequent or unexpected, in practice) within longer musical phrase.
Looking at Time Signatures, the latter number is the 'length' of the beat at whatever tempo. In 3/4 and 4/4, the last '4' indicates a quarter note. In 7/8, an eighth note. In 13/16, a sixteenth note.
The first number indicates the number of beats per measure. In 3/4, it's 3--3 quarter notes per measure....in 4/4 it's 4--4 quarter notes per measure...in 7/8 it's 7--7 eighth notes per measure.
To add to the confusion, 4/4 (or common) time usually has a 'feel' related to how the beats are divided. You can have an 8-count feel in a 4/4 measure...that's one-and-two-and-three-and-four-and. I can't really describe a 16 count feel, but it exists. "Pushes" are another lesson entirely and have to do with where the accent falls. Accents are the stronger beats in the rythm. As for synchopation, I absolutely can't describe that, but I know when I hear it. ;D And triplets? Oh my...that's like 3 accents occuring over the space of 2 'beats'.
Anyways, as the Catholics would say, "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. Do wop Do wop Do Wop Do Wop."
I'm joking with Mbwa about playing prog--but he understands that.
For us oldbies, George Harrison (solo) is a good reference for easily acccessible Prog, as are Kansas, earlier Genesis, and Jethro Tull. It can feel very natural, but it can also be jarring, depending on the intention of the musician and the expectation of the listener.
Ninny:
Wow,Dave! That's cool 8)
I still have that question about those improper fractions! :D What about time signatures like 9/8 & 5/4? Is that like really fast music? ??? I mean if an 8th note gets one beat and there are 9 beats per measure, oh see I am just too musically illiterate! Where do you find find these kind of time signatures? I guess I just never learned anything since elementary school :( (Oh well I guess this isn't the place for such questions) ;)
We will save that for another thread! :D Anyway, that is still good advice you gave to Mbwa!
Smile!
Kathy :)
Mbwa:
Here are the answers to your questions, Dave. But first I'd like to clear something up: The fundamentalist isn't my friend. I don't even know him/her. I just go on fundamentalist websites sometimes to find out what exactly they think is wrong with rock. Anyway:
1. I'm assuming you mean the band. About that, I am quite excited. One of my friends is quite the musician, it will be fun. Right now though, I am at a very beginner level in my guitar playing, but I like sonic experimentation, so I was just invited to help out with little stuff for now, I guess. Although later I'm sure I will get more involved in music with my friends. I will probably never be a pro 'rock star.' My one friend whom I mentioned earlier, the main man in this project, has been to a few places with his current band, and he'll probably go further with music than I will. However, if we get something going, I'm sure I'd love a little travel to a few shows and stuff. I don't think it's dangerous, considering the type of music we play. Sure, it's 'rock,' but it's softer, kind of strange sounding, 'nerdy' rock, I guess. A kind of indie-rock if you know what I mean. I'm pretty sure my friends are free of drugs and sex and stuff like that, the venues my friend has played at have just been little things like a church hall venue, a little
college place, and a few little festivals devoted to that type of indie music. (Although he did tell me a funny story about one of his shows, where after he performed, a guy wearing all black, leather jackets and stuff, approached him to talk. My friends music is kind of psychadelic, spacey. Like I said, he doesn't do drugs, but people who do are often attracted to this type of music. Anyway the guy said that he's done a bunch of drugs, and that my friend's music was really 'amateur' in that regard. Creepy.)
So no, I don't think it will be dangerous at all, especially since our parents would accompany us to every show we'd happen to play.
2. If I learned that rock was music straight from the devil, harmful to the soul, meant for pagans, then yes, it would. I'll be honest, I'd be quite sad if I heard this. I mean, I've listened to music all my life. If you think about it, it's rather unavoidable. TV jingles could be considered rock, along with theme songs, mainstream radio, music playing in stores. So yeah, it would change my life if you want me to be honest which I'm sure you do.
3. Hmmm... Well, even though their words scare me, like I just said, contemporary music is everywhere. I'm less likely to listen to my mp3 after listening to a Baptist preach against rock, but my family'd think I was crazy if I told them to turn off the car radio because it was evil! I think it'd be quite hard to train myself to hate this stuff. Even when I'm scared of music, like right after I hear that it's evil, I'll still talk with my friends about different bands and odd time signatures [:)] and such.
And finally, about question four: I don't know, and I think that's my problem. But, I did take Ninny's advice from earlier. I 'handed over my music' to God, and I haven't lost interest. I may have done it wrong though, if there is a proper technique. :)
Thanks for the help.
Mbwa
aqrinc:
Hi Mbwa,
Just rest for a while Brother; He Will Teach and Guide you, once you get done trying to do it yourself. :-\
Jesus Christ Is Lord' He Has Sent The Comforter; Rest. :)
george. ;D
--- Quote from: Mbwa on January 21, 2009, 01:56:10 PM ---
And finally, about question four: I don't know, and I think that's my problem. But, I did take Ninny's advice from earlier. I 'handed over my music' to God, and I haven't lost interest. I may have done it wrong though, if there is a proper technique. :)
Thanks for the help.
Mbwa
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