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jg:
Hiya all!

I've been looking at something lately and thought I might post it here to get more input from whoever might have more on the subject.  I know many of you are way beyond me in spiritual growth, so I welcome the insight of those who might have more experience and knowledge in the Word of God. 

I'm talking about "feelings", and how sometimes we (me) don't "feel" very spiritual. 

I think I'll start with this verse;

Luk 8:14  And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

I see myself fighting against the cares of this life sometimes, i.e. trying to make ends meet. 
It also occured to me that I've been lusting after money, (although I have none) just like a rich man (who has plenty).  LOL, I'm just as guilty of allowing money to butt into my walk with God as a rich man who lusts for more of it.  I had to repent on that one. 

I've been fighting to be fertile ground.  By "fighting" I mean, I'm trying to keep from allowing these "cares and riches and pleasures of life" from stealing the Word of God which He has so graceously given to me lately here on Ray's website. 

Sometimes I just don't feel very spiritual.  But I also know that this isn't about having a certain "feeling" all the time.  I know God will never leave me nor forsake me, so I hold onto that, knowing that whether I feel spiritual or not, He is IN me, causing His will to be done in me! Praise God!

Eph 6:12 for it is not ours to wrestle with blood and flesh, but with the sovereignties, with the authorities, with the world-mights of this darkness, with the spiritual forces of wickedness among the celestials."

I like this verse too, it tells me where the real problems come from.

I guess I need to learn balance.  Maybe you have some scripture to share, or maybe you see something else going on.  I look forward to your insight.

Thanks in advance.

Joe









Psa 27:6 Even now my head is being raised high over my enemies round about me, And I will sacrifice in His tent sacrifices with shouts of joy. I will sing and make melody to Yahweh."

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: jg on January 08, 2009, 09:57:15 AM ---Hiya all!

I've been looking at something lately and thought I might post it here to get more input from whoever might have more on the subject.  I know many of you are way beyond me in spiritual growth, so I welcome the insight of those who might have more experience and knowledge in the Word of God. 

I'm talking about "feelings", and how sometimes we (me) don't "feel" very spiritual. 

I think I'll start with this verse;

Luk 8:14  And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

I see myself fighting against the cares of this life sometimes, i.e. trying to make ends meet. 
It also occured to me that I've been lusting after money, (although I have none) just like a rich man (who has plenty).  LOL, I'm just as guilty of allowing money to butt into my walk with God as a rich man who lusts for more of it.  I had to repent on that one. 

I've been fighting to be fertile ground.  By "fighting" I mean, I'm trying to keep from allowing these "cares and riches and pleasures of life" from stealing the Word of God which He has so graceously given to me lately here on Ray's website. 

Sometimes I just don't feel very spiritual.  But I also know that this isn't about having a certain "feeling" all the time.  I know God will never leave me nor forsake me, so I hold onto that, knowing that whether I feel spiritual or not, He is IN me, causing His will to be done in me! Praise God!

Eph 6:12 for it is not ours to wrestle with blood and flesh, but with the sovereignties, with the authorities, with the world-mights of this darkness, with the spiritual forces of wickedness among the celestials."

I like this verse too, it tells me where the real problems come from.

I guess I need to learn balance.  Maybe you have some scripture to share, or maybe you see something else going on.  I look forward to your insight.

Thanks in advance.

Joe

Psa 27:6 Even now my head is being raised high over my enemies round about me, And I will sacrifice in His tent sacrifices with shouts of joy. I will sing and make melody to Yahweh."

--- End quote ---


Hello Joe,

I remember this one line from one of Ray's email replies to a reader and think if may help (I marked in bold):

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7618.0.html

Dear Reader: Quite to the contrary. Many have left their initial belief and acceptance of God and Jesus and have gone back into the world with a spiritually-minded vengeance!  Thankfully, God recalls some out of that condition, as He has done with you. All we who have "left our First Love" have similar feelings about how stupid, and selfish, and carnal we became.  But it is good to feel guilt and shame. These emotions help to continuously keep us from committing the same sins or to the same degree.  We have to "COME OUT"  of Babylon, and then we need to "STAY OUT."  And the staying out is often as difficult as the coming out. The more we spiritually grow and understand, the more we see our shortcomings.  It is good that God does not show us all of our sins all at once--it would be so over-powering and shameful, that we would have trouble facing another day.  Glad that you have seen the Light.
God be with you,
Ray


Just you thinking about this and wanting to change is a sign that Christ is working in you towards repentance. Those that Christ is not working in have no time to think whether or not they are lusting after money...they're too busy lusting after money.  :D

Rom 2:4  ...the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance

2 Cor 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death

Jer 31:33  ...After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts [spiritual conversion; repentance]; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Luke 5:33  I [Jesus] came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

2 Pet 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Looks as if the Lord is beginning a marvelous work in you...[...I [The Lord] will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder (Isa 29:14)...I will work a work in your days which ye will not believe, though it be told you (Hab 1:5)]


Hope this helps,

Marques

Kat:

Hi Joe,


--- Quote ---I've been fighting to be fertile ground.  By "fighting" I mean, I'm trying to keep from allowing these "cares and riches and pleasures of life" from stealing the Word of God which He has so graceously given to me lately here on Ray's website.
--- End quote ---

Yes we do have to come to an understanding as to what is more important to us.  Think about what is on your mind and in your thoughts most of the time?  If we consider what we spend most of our time dwelling on, then we can know where our heart is.

Mat 6:19 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;
v. 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
v. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


--- Quote ---I'm talking about "feelings", and how sometimes we (me) don't "feel" very spiritual.
--- End quote ---

To 'feel' spiritual I believe God has to be the top priority, whether it be in study or when we are not able to, are we meditating on Him and His truth?  Even when we must go about the necessary things we do in this world, cares of this world should not take over our minds and be all consumming.

Deu 6:5 You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
v. 6 "And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart.
v. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up.
v. 8 You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
v. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
v. 10 "So it shall be, when the LORD your God brings you into the land of which He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give you large and beautiful cities which you did not build,
v. 11 houses full of all good things, which you did not fill, hewn-out wells which you did not dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant--when you have eaten and are full-- v. 12 [then] beware, lest you forget the LORD who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

smeacham:
This is just my experience, but when I "feel spiritual" it's usually a sign that I don't "feel humble."  I'd rather feel humble any day, because the reward is in heaven.  I suspect that the reward for feeling spiritual is it's own reward.

aqrinc:

Hi Marques, Kat, Steve,

Thanks for the Scriptures and reminders, i agree in all points.

Hi (jg) aka joe,

I have been where you are many times. In fact there are times it gets so lonely
everything seems to be pressing me down. Early on i had the same questions you
ask and had no one (physically) to help or answer with Scriptural support. So left
to myself i would start thinking (is there really a God). That i am here today typing
is Testimony to the Fact (Yes He Is And He Cares) because in spite of my doubts
and many mistakes and grevious sins; God Still Dragged me here.

John 6:44:
No man can come to me, except the Father which has sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:65:
And he said, Therefore said I to you, that no man can come to me, except it were given to him of my Father.

John 10:29:
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I Corinthians 10:24:
Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.

george. :)

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