Its nothing new that you already don't know, its all in rays articles or in the bible as id like to emphasize
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Greetings InHisName!
Thanks for the post! I agree, the meat of the word is not easy for some to swallow. Actually, there are many who choke on the milk as well and some who completely refuse to even drink it so to speak.
Can you clarify this statement please? The way you wrote it leaves me a bit confused on what you are implying.
Steve
Very well i will clarify.
Please before you read this, Pray for the Eyes and Ears to understand the THINGS OF THE SPIRIT.
Remember that "
THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS,
THERE IS NO ONE WHO SEEKS AFTER GOD" Romans 3:11B
Keep in mind also what i said, about Jesus Christ. All is fullfilled In HIM. Jesus IS the BEGINING and the END along with everything in the middle of it.
I will start by Describing the Lake of
FIRE and what exactly it is and God does to those who don't believe, and then move on to the Jesus's mission to finish it.
Here we go, God be with me, with us all:
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For the creature [and/or creation itself]
was MADE subject to VANITY NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of Him [that’s God]
Who HATH SUBJECTED the same in hope. Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the BONDAGE OF CORRUPTION into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the WHOLE CREATION groans and travails IN PAIN until NOW" (Rom. 8:20-22)!
Secondly, Jesus SPOKE ONLY IN PARABLES TO THE CROUDS. He later explained what He was teaching behind closed doors to His disciples.
ALL these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES; and without a parable speak He NOT unto them" (Matt. 13:34).
What Jesus said has extremely deep spiritual meaning, but it is not LITERAL remember that.
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It is the SPIRIT that quickens [gives life]
; the FLESH PROFITS NOTHING: the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life" (John 6:63)
Perhaps this will help understand the weeping of gnashing and teeth.
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…cast into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth" (Matt. 13:42-43).
What Jesus is talking about is the SECOND DEATH. THE LAKE OF FIRE.
"…Let God be TRUE [Who says He "WILL save ALL MANKIND"]
, but every man a LIAR [who says He WILL NOT "save ALL MANKIND"]!
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And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Rev. 20:14-15) and "
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death," (Rev. 21:
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So even death and hell[Hades/Shoel] will be cast into this Lake of fire. What is it? It is GOD. God is the FIRE. He will burn out all INPURITIES OUT OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
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Beloved, think it NOT STRANGE concerning the FIERY trial which is to try you, as though some STRANGE thing happened unto you" (I Pet. 4:12).
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I indeed baptize you with water unto REPENTANCE: but He that comes after me is mightier than I, Whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, AND WITH FIRE" (Matt. 3:11).
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For EVERY ONE [sinner and saint]
shall be salted with FIRE" (Mark 9:49).
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it [your faith]
be TRIED IN THE FIRE, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ" (I Pet. 1:7).
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Every man’s work [including believers]
shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed BY FIRE, and the FIRE shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
If any man’s work abide which he has built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; YET SO AS BY FIRE" (I Cor. 3:13-15).
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And of the angels He says, Who makes His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of FIRE"(Heb. 1:7).
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Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing you shall heap coals of FIRE on his head" (Rom. 12:20).
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But who may abide the day of His coming? And who shall stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner’s FIRE, and like fullers’ soap" (Malachi 3:2).
Remmember Matt, it said in the FURNACE OF FIRE there will be wailing and gnasshing of teeth. Look who is that Furnace, look at who IS THE FIRE.
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From above has He sent FIRE into my bones…" (Lamentations 1:13).
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Is not My word like as a FIRE? saith the Lord" (Jer. 23:29).
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For in My jealousy and in the FIRE of My wrath have I spoken" (Ezek. 38;19).
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…for all the earth shall be devoured with the FIRE of my jealousy" (Zeph. 3:
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For our God is a CONSUMING FIRE!"(Heb. 12:29)!
What is this fire, what is this furnace, who is the REFINERS FIRE? WHO PURIFIES WITH BRIMSTONE AND FIRE? WHO REFINES SILVER INTO GOLD? OUR GOD. GOD IS THE CONSUMING FIRE,
And are these non-believers judged differently from believers who are "
revealed, tried, salted and baptized IN FIRE?" Just HOW are these non-believers judged in the book of Revelation? How are the ".
..fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars..." JUDGED? Answer: "
... In the lake WHICH BURNS WITH FIRE ..." (Rev. 21:
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I hope you are starting to see a deeper SPIRITUAL understanding to what Gods
FIRE is really about, and what the lake which burns with
FIRE is all about.
Now this ties all in with Jesus's mission.
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Who will have all men to be saved, and to come into the KNOWLEDGE of the truth" (I Tim. 2:4).
Jesus didn't come to save a small group of sinners, that is only a small part of it.
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And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent [Gk: apostello, to send out on a mission—commission]
TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD"(I John 4:14)
Maybe God doesn’t want the whole world to be saved?
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Who WILL have all men to be saved" (I Tim. 2:4).
Second witness:
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For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, Who is the Saviour of ALL MEN, especially [but not exclusively]
of those who believe" (I Tim. 4:10).
Doesn’t God will that most of humanity will eternally perish in the lake of fire?
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The Lord…is NOT WILLING that ANY should perish [eternally]…" (II Peter. 3:9).
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And I, if I be lifted up [on the cross]
from the earth, will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME" (John 12:32).
But doesn’t the whole world need first to have their sins atoned for?
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And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for our’s only, but also for THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD" (I John 2:2).
Second witness:
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The next day John sees Jesus coming unto him, and says, Behold the Lamb of God, which TAKES AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD" (John 1:29).
Hasn’t the Church proven by their interpretation of the "lake of fire" that it is "impossible" to save all mankind?
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Who then CAN be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE"
Isn’t it up to each individual to "CHOOSE CHIRST" in order to be saved?
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You have NOT CHOSEN ME, but I have CHOSEN YOU…" (John 15:16).
But didn’t Billy Graham say at one of his crusades that "we must come to Christ all on our own?" To not even pray for those making that decision, because that decision to "come to Christ" must be theirs and THEIRS ALONE?
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NO MAN CAN COME TO ME [by his own free will choice]
except the Father which has sent me DRAW HIM [Greek: DRAG HIM]
and I WILL raise him up at the last day" (John 6:44).
Are you telling me that I never did seek God ON MY OWN?
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There is NONE that seeks after God" (Rom. 3:11b).
See Second Witness in Psalm 14:2.
But what if I believe that I can and I do WILL to serve God on my own.
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For it is GOD which works IN you both TO WILL and TO DO of His good pleasure" (Phil. 2:13).
Well I know for a fact that it says in Heb. 11:6 that without faith it is impossible to please God, so surely we must work up our OWN FAITH in order to please God?
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For by grace are ye saved through FAITH; and that [that ‘FAITH’]
is NOT OF YOURSELVES [well where does it come from then, if not from US?]
; it is the GIFT OF GOD" (Eph. 2:
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Second Witness:
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…and what have you that you did not RECEIVE….?" (I Cor. 4:7).
But surely everyone will have to acknowledge the RISEN Jesus Christ as their Lord and their Jesus [Jehovah-SAVIOUR] before they can ever be saved, so when does that happen?
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That at the name of Jesus [Jehovah-Saviour—THEIR Saviour]
EVERY knee should bow, in heaven, and in earth, and under the earth; and that EVERY tongue should confess [‘That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God has raised Him from the dead, THOU SHALT BE SAVED, Rom. 10:9)]
that Jesus Christ [The Christ that God ‘raised from the dead.’ Christ was already ‘RISEN’ when this was written in Phil. 2:11]
is Lord [‘Lord’ means ‘master’—acknowledging Christ as Master of their lives]
, to the glory of God the Father" (Phil. 2:10-11).
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To wit that God was in Christ, reconciling THE WORLD unto Himself, NOT imputing [reckoning]
THEIR TRESPASSES [SINS]
AGAINST THEM" (II Cor. 5:19).
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For THIS is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men [What percentage? Five percent? Fifty percent?]
… ALL men to be saved..." (I Tim. 2:3-4).
But doesn’t this sound like ALL that we do to be saved is OF GOD, and not of ourselves?
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God is operating ALL in all" (I Cor. 12:6)
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Yet ALL is of God" (II Cor. 5:18)
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For OF Him, and THROUGH Him, and TO Him, ARE ALL THINGS: to Whom be glory for ever. Amen" (Rom. 11:34)
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…being predestinated according to the purpose of Him Who works ALL THINGS after the counsel of His OWN WILL" (Eph. 1:11).
This almost sounds like we can do absolutely NOTHING on our own to bring about our own salvation.
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I am the vine, you are the branches … for without me you can do NOTHING" (John 15:5).
Now you might say to yourself, Well God is just repeating this over and over because He just wishes it would happen, or He just wants it to happen but Hes not gonna force it too happen. Lets let scripture tell us, and its quit contrary to what you believe of this "free will".
Remember the former things of old: for I am GOD, and there is none else; I am GOD, and there is none like Me. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel SHALL STAND, and WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE [as in I Tim. 2:4 and everywhere else]:
Calling a ravenous bird from the east [Cyrus?]
, the man that executes my counsel [just as the king of Assyria]
from a far country: yea, I have SPOKEN IT [as in I Tim. 2:4 and everywhere else]
I WILL ALSO BRING IT TO PASS [as also in saving all mankind]
; I have PURPOSED IT [as also in saving all mankind]
I WILL ALSO DO IT" (Isaiah 46:9-11).
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So shall my WORD be that goes forth OUT OF MY MOUTH [just as in I Tim. 2:4 and everywhere else]
it shall NOT return into me void, but it SHALL ACCOMPLISH THAT WHICH I PLEASE, and it SHALL PROSPER IN THE THING WHERETO I SENT IT" (Isaiah 55:11).
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God is NOT a man, that He should LIE [do we think God LIES when He says that He WILL save all mankind in I Tim. 2:4?]
; neither the son of man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not DO IT? Or has He spoken [as in I Tim. 2:4 and many other places]
, and shall He not MAKE IT GOOD?" (Numbers 23:19).
Well? Those of you who contend with your Maker:
"Hath God SAID" in I Tim. 2:4 that He
"WILL have all men to be saved?" Well then,
"SHALL HE NOT DO IT?" (Num. 23:19). Has "
He [God] SPOKEN" in I Tim. 2:4 and many other places, that He "
…WILL have all men to be saved?" Well then,
"…shall He NOT MAKE IT GOOD?" (Num. 23:19).
All these Scriptures make it sound as if the Church has many worship practices that are nothing but the philosophies, commandments, and traditions of men rather than Scripture.
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Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men…Full well you reject the commandments of God, [like: ‘LOVE YOUR ENEMIES’]
that you may keep your OWN TRADITION" (Mark 7:7 & 9).
I pray you are starting to see that GODS FIRE, PURIFIES and DOES NOT TORTURE in an eternal Hell hole of terrorist fire. It is a SPIRITUAL CLEANSING, God will save everyone, because whatever He simply WISHES HE will do, Jesus Christ IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD not half of it, not 1/4 of it, not 1/10 of it not even 9/10 of it BUT ALL OF IT. God is the very reason people believe, and why some don't!
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the God of this world (age - aion)
hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them" (II Cor. 4:4).
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God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day" (Rom. 11:
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And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: (II Thess 2:11)
Our God is truly awsome and amazing when you start to dig for His riches, and see just how deep they truly are. I pray that He gives you(Each and everyone of you) EYES AND EARS to hear the Things of the spirit. This is much meat that most cannot swallow, pray is all i can tell you.
God will and God bless,
Alex
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For to be carnally minded is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded is LIFE and peace" (Rom. 8:6).
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My second responce was more along the lines of the carnal being death, and the spiritual being life, and how we are to compare spiritual with spiritual, and that Jesus words are SPIRIT and that PARABLES ARE NOT LITERAL. Matt slick was making a huge point about the parables and how there literal. Yet Jesus words are SPIRIT and we compare SPIRITUAL WITH SPIRITUAL not SPIRITUAL WITH PHYSICAL.
Thus i was banned.
God bless,
Alex