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Re: Who are the dead in Christ
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 04:25:52 AM »

Hi Ricky,

You need to rest in The Lord Jesus Christ, stop trying to fix or justify anything; you cannot; Only He by His Own
Power and Might Is Able and Will Justify All. The party you are having is not going to add anything to GOD'S WILL.
It will not take anything from GOD'S WILL for you either; so Rest. These few Scriptures are talking to you.

Mat 6: 14-16
14 "For if you should be forgiving men their offenses, your heavenly Father also will be forgiving you.

15 Yet if you should not be forgiving men their offenses, neither will your Father be forgiving your offenses.

16 "Now whenever you may be fasting, become not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance, for they disguise
their faces so that they may appear to men to be fasting. Verily, I am saying to you: They are collecting their wages.

Mat 6:25
"Therefore I am saying to you, Do not worry about your soul, what you may be eating, or what you may be drinking, nor
yet about your body, what you should be putting on. Is not the soul more than nourishment, and the body than apparel?

Mat 6:26
"Look at the flying creatures of heaven, that they are not sowing, neither are they reaping, nor are they gathering into
barns, and your heavenly Father is nourishing them. Are not you of more consequence than they?

Mat 6:32-34
32 For for all these the nations are seeking. For aware is your heavenly Father that you need all of these.
33 Yet seek first the kingdom and its righteousness, and these all shall be added to you.
34 You should not, then, be worrying about the morrow, for the morrow will be worrying of itself. Sufficient for the day is its own evil.

george. :)


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Re: Who are the dead in Christ
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 09:03:24 AM »

Ive got your back bro. in fact I think I can say that all of us here have your back.
 When I say I know where your at its because Ive been there.Our crimes may have been different but the journey out of it is the same. I'm 55 years old,been in prison 3 times,each time 10 years apart, all drug related. I know loneliness, a hardened heart full of anger and hate. I know mistrust all too well, and constantly never turning my back. God took 8 years to burn this stuff out of me.I tried running from it, but when God has your back,He has your front also.
You and I know that when someone gives their word in a deal,then we expect them to keep it,in fact they better keep it,you know, we hold them to it.(Past tense of course). Well God has made a lot of promises to us and we can hold Him to every one of them w/o forcing Him.
  Its only been in the last 3 years that I started to have faith and trust in God 100%.
  Do you mind a little advice? You admitted that God wouldn't let you hurt the thief,well He had your back and front. Im sure that He has probably done it more than once.
  Stop feeling like your behind or that its taking too long, and spend a whole lot more time on watching for how God is working in you by seeing how Hes got your front and back.
  You and I are corresponding,God has your back and front.Your on this web site and talking to people that love and care. God has your back and front. This is just one of many ways that God gives you faith and trust.
It seems like the hard cases,like you and me, that God takes a little longer to bring us around. I dont know why its like that but its all for the good as you will see. I know that we are to be used in a special way as every one on this site is. We are all unique and have our specialty. How can a drug counselor help someone if hes never been there? God has a special plan for you but it takes time.
Watch as hard as you can to see how God is working in you. I know what its like to want it faster but its all in Gods time frame.You cant speed it up or slow it down, and you cant run from it.
 Its very humbling for hard cases such as you and I to share things about our past as we have here but thats God in us.He has our back and front.
I have no doubt that you are here to stay, and that we are going to be blessed by watching you grow. I look forward to you sharing with us and getting to know you.Remember, God and all of us have your back and front.
Peace my Bro. in Christ
Roy Martin 
When the beast in you is at work,so is God in you at work.Dont worry about the beast or focus on the beast.Focus on God in you.
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Re: Who are the dead in Christ
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2009, 12:40:30 PM »

Hello Roy, Thankyou for your kind reply. I had probably made a big mistake here on BT by telling everyone about my dad`s side of the family I am quit sure that most if not all on BT will now have a very bad assumption about me now and would rather not associate with me, and that`s OK because I am use to it, it has allway`s been that way. I shall make one thing very clear, I was never a CLUB MEMBER for them, and I shall leave it at that. I needed to show everyone that I am different from all of you. None of you have ever done or lived they way I have, the first 39 years of my life, I know this. And I believe that because of this, it is the reason why it will take me 5 times longer for God to really bust me up and put me back together. I think that God has burnt all my sins out of me, except one. The first 39 years of my life was all booze, drugs, crime, and jail. I am a very hard man to deal with, I trust no one, and that includes God, and I think that may be the problem God has with me, or I have with Him. If you have no one to pray for you, somehow I think it may be harder for God to work on you, I do not know this for sure. I know God is with me but it feels like He may be sitting on the sidelines right now and letting me run the race on my own. I had always thought that God was out to get even with me for my past lifestyle. I have been clean from booze and crime now for 14 years, since 1995 the year I became a christian, and that happened because of a car accident on the Alaska highway. I woke up 3 weeks later 1500 miles away with a broken neck and back. Doctor`s have no medical reason why I am alive and not paralyzed today. If there is anyone here that could pray for me, just once, maybe God could find some mercy for me to help me understand just a little bit.
 Thankyou        Ricky

maybe God could find some mercy for me to help me understand just a little bit.

I had always thought that God was out to get even with me for my past lifestyle.

Ricky,this an email to Ray,hope you can see some help in it.Lord knows we all have been into things past that none are proud of, but, by the Grace of our Father we all will be eventually healed.

All bold emphasis  mine.,1721.0.html

Dear Chris:
I will make a few COMMENTS in your email.................

    Dear Ray,

    I am struggling very much in my life. I am fighting temptation and failing constantly.  I feel so low. I know this is part of Godís plan for me, but I donít know how much more I can take.  The guilt is so intense because I know I am doing wrong yet I still do it.  I trust in God with all my might, but I have a bad habit of questioning by faith at times.  So I guess you can say my faith is weak.


    COMMENT:  This is not meant to be critical, Chris, but "trusting God will all your might and questioning your faith at the same time" is what we call a "contradiction."  You obviously do NOT trust in God with all your might. YOU HAVE NO MIGHT!  And neither do I or anyone else. This is a great part of your problem.  You are looking to yourself for success and looking to yourself for failure. Get your eyes OFF OF YOURSELF.


    How can I improve?  I know myself and no man can be perfect as a human being, but how can I at least wipe out the major sin areas in my life and fine some peace and confidence in myself?


    COMMENT:  You have repeated your same problem over again, albeit in slightly different words:  " can 'I' find peace and confidence in 'MYSELF?'"  Answer:  YOU CAN'T.  You will never ever find peace and confidence until it comes FROM God and is IN GOD.  "For we and the circumcision [those who have had the flesh, carnal mind, CUT from us--the mind that believes in self-confidence and self-improvement] which worship God in the SPIRIT, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH [OUR flesh--our carnal mind]" (Phil. 3:3).


    Maybe I am not praying hard enough. Maybe I am not trying hard enough. I donít know.  I just wish to live a life of honor, but, I also know that Godís will shall be done and I accept that.  I can only hope he has better things planned for me in the future. I feel a call to minister to others.


    COMMENT:  Chris, I appreciate your sentiment, but you are in NO CONDITION spiritually to be ministering to the spiritual needs of others.  You have not gotten the "log" out of your own eye as yet, and therefore you cannot see clearly to get a "mote" out of your brother's eye (Matt. 7:3-5).  Only God can lift you up and give you true confidence and peace of mind, but this can only happen after you are HUMBLED (James 4:3-12).


      To heal even.  But how can I this treacherous sinner be a spiritual model for others? I sometimes wonder that God has made me know sin so deeply that I could be beneficial to others in forgiving and healing themselves through the grace of God. After all I have been there and know first-hand what it means to betray, fail, and disgrace myself in the eyes of the Lord.


    Have you been where I am?  If so, how did you get out?


    COMMENT:  Yes, of course, "been there done that."  You will NOT get yourself out and neither did I get myself out--But GOD DID.  God is in control of your life. You cannot force God's hand. God moves according to His plan and purpose, not ours. The fact that you are asking me these questions could be a sign that God is beginning to deal with you, but He will show you what you must do, and you will then do it.  I am just a teacher and a "preacher of foolishness" (I Cor. 1:21-24).  But God USES the preaching of foolishness [That is:  God uses the poor grammar and ackward words and phrases and mis-spelled that I use to teach and write with TO CHANGE THE SPIRITUAL LIVES of those whom God is calling out of this world. God can accomplish one of His greatest miracles in the universe, that of spiritaully converting and regenerating a carnal mind into a spiritual mind, through what, on the surface, may seem to many to be 'foolishness'] of preaching to SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE."

    Don't become discouraged. You are just as God desires you to be AT THIS TIME.  I know how discouraging it can be to not be able to have "dominion" over your sins.  But in God's time, you will have the victory, and it will come from God, not yourself.

    God be with you,


    God bless you for the truths you have brought to my life.   

    In Christís name,


Peace...   Mark


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Re: Who are the dead in Christ
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2009, 12:47:23 PM »

Quote from: Ricky

my father`s side of the family from Vancouver is Hell`s Angel`s, east end chapter.

I, occasionally, ride with the 81's "Chief"; HAMC Cave Creek, AZ. He's my neighbor!


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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2009, 01:55:15 PM »

Mark, thankyou for the link that was one I have not read, and it has helped me understand a little more. Roy your words hit me hard every time plain simple English that I can understand. Thankyou. PATRICK, I only have one thing to say to you Bro. I thought I was alone with this, and now have heard different, THANKYOU Patrick, for being honest and open on this matter. I now do not feel that I am on the outside looking in, awesome, totally awesome, unbelievable. One of my tatties is A.F.F.A. I am quit sure you know what those letter`s mean. You people do not know what you have done for me, and I do not know how to thank you for sharing. I have never had love for anyone or received it from anyone. It has always been a wimpy thing to me, kids stuff, same as sex, which I have not had since becoming a christian 14 years now, and do not need it anymore, Yikes, I can`t believe I said that and is so true. I now feel something I have Never felt before. THANYOU,THANKYOU, THANKYOU  :'(
May the Lord Bless you all; BIGTIME
Your heart is God`s gift to you, what you make of it, shall be your gift to Him.
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