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love_magnified:
Dear Mr. Smith
In response to your doctrine of the Trinity or lack thereof, I have one portion of scripture to read to you: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1. Does this not say that Jesus and God were one person? I am very interested to see your standpoint on this verse. I am not asking for a lengthy response, but I am not opposed to one.

Thank you for your time,
Mr. O


Dear Mr. O:
So you believe that one can be "WITH" someone else and yet at the same time "BE" that other person that he is "WITH"? I am not asking for a lengthy response...........
God be with you,
Ray

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I don't have esword handy. Can someone post the translation info about this verse. I have actually heard that the translation should read "The word was toward God, and the word was God." Which means the Word is the visible image of the invisible God both points toward God and also has been given all rule and authority and thought it not pillaging to be equal with God. The originial translation does speak to that anyway, but I am curious about the original Greek.

buddyjc:
The Greek word translated 'with' does mean 'toward' but is also used as 'beside' or 'near.'  Using the word 'with' does not seem to be wrong.

Brian

love_magnified:
It does give some understanding though. The Word (Christ) was toward God lends understanding to what "with" God means. The Word represents God, the visible image. The Word was God because nothing Christ does is of himself.

Daniel:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, THE WORD, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME is called THE WORD "OF GOD".

Heb 6:10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed TOWARD HIS NAME, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Buddy shows (caps mine)

The Greek word translated WITH does mean TOWARD but is also used as BESIDE or 'NEAR.' Using the word 'with' does not seem to be wrong.

Great meditation all are used

The word was WITH, Being His NAME is called The Word of God we see love TOWARD HIS NAME. Paul said the WORD is NEAR YOU. The Father is WITH HIM and we reign WITH HIM.

Lots of applications that are expressed elsewhere. Him being "The beginning". Knowing that IN "the Begining" "was" THE WORD and the WORD was WITH GOD (and was God). Jesus Christ is also "The Beginning" of "the creation". HE is very one the scriptures testified OF. Gods word (of Emannuel) God (His word) WITH US. We too becoming as He is or "like Him" a manifestion of His work and word in us.

Daniel

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Daniel ---For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, THE WORD, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.



Daniel
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Daniel i don't believe that verse is legitimate, what verse is that again? There are some verses that use the Holy ghost, the father and Jesus Christ (such as the batpize verse) which were added in later by the translaters from a latin vulgate, i believe.

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