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Victoria:

--- Quote from: Kat on September 22, 2006, 09:56:31 PM ---
Hi Victoria,

I still can not understand what your talking about.
But, what does it have to do with Bibletruths?
This forum is for discussing things pertaining to that web site.
If you have a question about anything there,  we can relate to that.
I just don't know anything about all this stuff you keep talking about.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

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Do you read Bro. Smith teaching in the this website? Good teaching!  I love his teaching.  To respect me and respect you.  May I share things that I learn. In order for you to learn also. Maybe you can teach me also what you have learn from brother Smith?

Do you know this is what Jesus says... they pay tithes .... but omited law, mercy, faith and judgement.  They forgot how to be merciful, they forgot to say good things to others, they mocked people instead to make them understand what they are trying to say. They could not discern evil and good because of lack of judgement.

Victoria:

--- Quote from: bobbys43 on September 23, 2006, 11:07:51 AM ---Victoria bless your heart. I will have to admit I am a little confused my self.

As pertaining to the law,tithing,keeping the sabath, sacrifices,etc,,,. We are no longer under the law.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Galatians 3:9-11

 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

 Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

 Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

 Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

 Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

 Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

 Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

 bobby(bob)

I do not believe paying tithes.  Paying tithes unscriptural in the new testament. 

What I am trying to say is.... if person preaching the tithes under the law of Moses. They need to follow all the rules and regulations.  This is what I am trying to accross.

There are two thing we need to remember if .... if.... if.... we are under the law of Moses.

Rule # 1 God choose the place first in order for you place the tithe. If.... if... you are under the law of Moses. According to this scriptures.

Deut. 12:11 
    Then there shall be a place which the Lord your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice vows which ye vow unto the Lord:

Rule # 2 = NOT ALLOWED TO CHOOSE YOUR OWN PLACE. If... if... if... your under the law of Moses.

Deut. 12:13
    Take heed to thyself that thou offer not thy burnt offerings in every place that thou seest:



























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Kat:

Hi Victoria,


--- Quote ---Do you know this is what Jesus says... they pay tithes .... but omited law, mercy, faith and judgement.
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If I understand you correctly, you are saying this means that Ray teaches tithing?

If so, I will simply give you this heading from his title page.

Tithing is Unscriptural Under the New Testament Part's I and II
  It is a sin to enforce tithing on New Testament Christians!

If this is not what you are saying, excuse the misunderstanding.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

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