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What part of this Book is not for you?
SteveB:
Its an honest question. I NEEDS an answer. What part of the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is NOT for you?
Below is a portion of Rays, 'Twelve God-given Truths to understand His Word.'
Is the whole book of the revelation OF JESUS CHRIST, not for US?
Love...Steve
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TRUTH NUMBER 11
"Grace be into you, and peace, from Him which IS and which WAS, and which IS TO COME…" (Rev. 1:4).
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which IS, and which WAS, and which IS TO COME, THE almighty" (Rev. 1:8).
"Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which WAS, and IS, and IS TO COME" (Rev. 4:8).
"Jesus Christ the same YESTERDAY, and TODAY, and FOR EVER" (Hebrews 13:8).
When God wants to emphasis something, He repeats it. When He really wants to emphasize something, He repeats it again. When He really, really, really wants to emphasize something, He repeats it multiple times. Let’s count the times God uses this phrase:
"Him which IS, and which WAS, and which IS TO COME" Rev. 1:4).
"I AM alpha and Omega, the BEGINNING and the ENDING, which IS, and which WAS, and which IS TO COME" (Rev. 1:8).
"I am Alpha and Omega, the FIRST and the LAST" (Rev. 1:11).
"I am the FIRST and the LAST" (Rev. 1:17).
"I am He that LIVES, and WAS DEAD; and, behold, I AM ALIVE" "Rev. 1:18).
"the FIRST and the LAST, which was DEAD, and is ALIVE" (Rev. 2:8).
"Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty, which WAS, and IS, and IS TO COME" (Rev. 4:8).
"Oh Lord God Almighty, which ART, and WAS, and ARE TO COME" (Rev. 11:17).
"Thou art righteous, O Lord, which ARE, and WAS, and SHALL BE" (Rev. 16:5).
"I am Alpha and Omega, the BEGINNING and the END" (Rev. 22:13).
Let’s try reading a few verses together with this spiritual understanding of what is "spiritual," and what still, "is, was, and will be." A couple of years ago I presented the following in one of my Lake of Fire Installments:
"The [spiritual] Revelation [that is, was, and will be] of [spiritual] Jesus Christ [who is, was, and will be], which God gave unto Him, to show unto His [spiritual] servants [which are were and will be] [spiritual] things [which are, were, and will be] which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and [spiritually] signified [what is, was, and will be] by His [spiritual] angel [which is, was, and will be] unto His [spiritual] servant [which is, was, and will be] John.
Who bare [spiritual] record of [what is, was, and will be] of the [spiritual] word [which is, was, and will be] of [spiritual] God [who is, was, and will be], and of the [spiritual] testimony [which is, was, and will be] of [spiritual] Jesus Christ [Who lives, was dead, and am alive; Who is, was, and will be; the Alpha and the Omega; the beginning and the end; Who is, was, and is to come], and of all [spiritual] things [which are, were, and will be], that he [spiritually] saw [things that are, and were, and will be].
[Spiritually] Blessed is he [who is, was, and will be] that [spiritually] reads [what is, was, and will be], and they that [spiritually] hear [what is, was, and will be] the [spiritual] words of this [spiritual] prophecy [which is, was, and will be], and [spiritually] keep those things [which are, were, and will be] which are [spiritually] written therein: for the [spiritual] time [that is, was, and will be] is [spiritually] at hand" (Rev. 1:1-3).
If anyone thinks this is funny, he is laughing at God, not at me. Once one thoroughly understands this spiritual truth of what is, was, and will be, it is not necessary to read the entire Book in the way I have stated it above. Neither is it necessary to repeat the words of James when he instructs us to always be aware of the fact that "If the Lord will, we shall do this, or that" (James 4:15).
The testimony of Jesus Christ does not change, and Christ Himself does not change, and therefore His dealings with humanity do not change, other than that there is coming a consummations of sin and death. Christ is not changed, but WE WILL BE CHANGED to conform to the Image of Jesus Christ.
mustardseed:
--- Quote ---When God wants to emphasis something, He repeats it.
--- End quote ---
I agree.
Rev 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
SteveB:
--- Quote ---and [spiritually] keep those things [which are, were, and will be] which are [spiritually] written therein: for the [spiritual] time [that is, was, and will be] is [spiritually] at hand" (Rev. 1:1-3).
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--- Quote ---The testimony of Jesus Christ does not change, and Christ Himself does not change, and therefore His dealings with humanity do not change, other than that there is coming a consummations of sin and death. Christ is not changed, but WE WILL BE CHANGED to conform to the Image of Jesus Christ.
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This was posted a few months back. And agree with it. Seems as though Rays has changed his mind yet is keeping this paper teaching this Truth on his site and yet says its not true.
I'm confused.
Love...Steve
shibboleth:
I have some things to think about too, SteveB. I believe Ray has a lot of truth, but he isn't God and doesn't have all truth. Maybe Ray just can't see some of the contradictions in what he teaches. We are all falwed vessels, some are more flawed (me) than others.
What are the sound doctrines we are to contend for? When are we to judge a brother? How are we ever going to live together if we have to agree on everything? But, there must be some things we need to agree on? I am going back to the beginning of Matthew and read and study to Revelation and I'm begging god to help me understand what He means.
But, if Ray and Mike both believe you have to have 100% agreement in all points, then I guess sooner or later this parting of company would have taken place. Maybe Jesus has been neglected in all this and He needs to be the rightful head of his body and church.
mustardseed:
Believe this shibboleth, try the spirits (1Jn. 4:1) by the word of God. If someone tells you that some of the book of Revelation is not for you...and you look in Revelation and see...
Rev 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.
...then you know what to believe. God's Word is the test.
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