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aqrinc:
This entire experience of evil is not to perfect our soul; but rather through trials and tribulation to humble us.
Ray has done a lot of work on this subject, it is worth spending a few hours on studying. Also there are many
good threads from prior discussions over the last couple years.

The Father's Will: 2006 Mobile Conference.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3720.msg27960.html#msg27960

Ecc 1:13 (CLV)
I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

We are not dragged out of Babylon just to spread it (babylonish works) wherever we go, name it and claim it,
is far from our calling. The Apostles spent their lives getting this message out to the Churches (each individual Church).
Here is an example below of the real calling; but remember; we must endure through much tribulation, to the end.

Act 14: 21-22 (MKJV)
21  And preaching the gospel to that city, and having made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and Iconium and Antioch,
22  confirming the souls of the disciples, calling on them to continue in the faith and that through much tribulation we must enter into the kingdom of God.


1Pe 1: 2-12 (GNB)
2  You were chosen according to the purpose of God the Father and were made a holy people by his Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be purified by his blood. May grace and peace be yours in full measure.
3  Let us give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! Because of his great mercy he gave us new life by raising Jesus Christ from death. This fills us with a living hope,
4  and so we look forward to possessing the rich blessings that God keeps for his people. He keeps them for you in heaven, where they cannot decay or spoil or fade away.
5 They are for you, who through faith are kept safe by God's power for the salvation which is ready to be revealed at the end of time.
6  Be glad about this, even though it may now be necessary for you to be sad for a while because of the many kinds of trials you suffer.
7  Their purpose is to prove that your faith is genuine. Even gold, which can be destroyed, is tested by fire; and so your faith, which is much more precious than gold, must also be tested, so that it may endure. Then you will receive praise and glory and honor on the Day when Jesus Christ is revealed.
8  You love him, although you have not seen him, and you believe in him, although you do not now see him. So you rejoice with a great and glorious joy which words cannot express,
9  because you are receiving the salvation of your souls, which is the purpose of your faith in him.
10  It was concerning this salvation that the prophets made careful search and investigation, and they prophesied about this gift which God would give you.
11  They tried to find out when the time would be and how it would come. This was the time to which Christ's Spirit in them was pointing, in predicting the sufferings that Christ would have to endure and the glory that would follow.
12  God revealed to these prophets that their work was not for their own benefit, but for yours, as they spoke about those things which you have now heard from the messengers who announced the Good News by the power of the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. These are things which even the angels would like to understand.

george. :)

judith collier:
Yes, if the Master suffered tribulations and trials then why should we be spared if we are called. Judy

Carlos31:
without mistakes, God can't chasten.

if you don't have mistakes of flaws, what can God correct?

he can surely prosper your other good qualities

Deborah-Leigh:
To add from http://bible-truths.com/lake3.html

...like a real flogging God will chasten us until He drives out the beast in us. The beast of supposed free will which is really self-will.....It takes the very presence of Jesus Christ to dispel the beast of humanistic self-determinism...

Arc

aqrinc:

--- Quote from: Carlos31 on March 11, 2009, 06:32:52 PM ---without mistakes, God can't chasten.

if you don't have mistakes of flaws, what can God correct?

he can surely prosper your other good qualities

--- End quote ---

Hi Carlos,

We do not need to make any mistakes to get correction; we are being corrected because mistakes is all we know how to make.

What good qualities do we have inherently? none according to The Scripture:

Isa 64:6 
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Psa 14:1  (KJV)
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Psa 14:3 
They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Psa 53:1 
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Psa 53:3 
Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Jer 4:22 
For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Mic 7:2 
The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.

Mat 19:17 
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mar 10:18 
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luk 18:19 
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Rom 3:12 
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Here is what we must alway keep in mind, the race we run has a finish line. When that line is crossed by the
last runner (overcomer) Only By The GRACE OF GOD; look what is next in Scripture.

Rev 22:10 (CLV)
And he is saying to me, "You should not be sealing the sayings of the prophecy of this scroll, for the era is near."

Rev 22:11
Let the injurer injure still; and let the filthy one be filthy still; and let the just one do righteousness still; and let the holy one be hallowed still."

Rev 22:12
Lo! I am coming swiftly, and My wage is with Me, to pay each one as his work is."

Rev 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Origin and the Consummation."

george. :)

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