Hi Edward,
Nice big question for the second post, see how different translations read. Take into account,
read all the words, Ray makes that point over and over in his teaching.Gen 1:26 (CLV)And saying is the Elohim, "Make will We humanity in Our image, and according to Our likeness, and sway shall they over the fish of the sea, and over the flyer of the heavens, and over the beast, and over all land life, and over every moving animal moving on the land.
Gen 1:27 (CLV)And creating is the Elohim humanity in His image. In the image of the Elohim He creates it. Male and female He creates them.
Gen 1:26 (CEV)God said, "Now we will make humans, and they will be like us. We will let them rule the fish, the birds, and all other living creatures."
Gen 1:27 (CEV)So God created humans to be like himself; he made men and women.
Gen 1:26 (YLT) And God saith, `Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth.'
Gen 1:27 (YLT)And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them.
They all seem to say the same thing on first read, not so when you read all the words.Here is an older thread http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=8198.msg66200#msg66200Excerpt from Rays Teaching on this subject.http://bible-truths.com/lake12.htmlNOT YET IN THE IMAGE OF GOD
Most of Christendom have been taught and believe that God created (past tense) man in the very "image of God." Oh really?
So if we want to see what the "image of God" really looks like, all we have to do is look at the vast sea of evil, sinning humanity? Or maybe you believe like many that Adam and Eve WERE (past tense) in the absolute, very IMAGE of God when they were created, but then lost that "image" when they sinned?
Few indeed realize that being made into the image of God is much the same as being saved—IT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS!
Check all the verses in the original: "now saving," "to save," "shall save," "might save," "are being saved," etc. "For by grave ARE ye saved through faith…" tells us HOW we are being saved, not WHEN (Eph. 2:08). Verses such as I Cor. 1:18 in the King James, "…but unto us which ARE saved it is the power of God," is not a faithful rendering of the Greek. Check an interlinear. The words are thus: "…to-THE YET ones-beING-SAVED US…" Yes, often the original manuscripts have only endings and not the complete word, as in "ING." It clearly shows and uncompleted action.
Creating man in God’s image:
King James Version: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness… So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; make and female created He them" (Gen. 1:26a & 27).
Concordant Version: "And saying is the Alueim [Hebrew: elohiym, gods or used of the supreme God--plural of elowahh, a deity or the Deity], Make will We humanity in Our image, and according to Our likeness… And creating is the Alueim humanity in His image. In the Image of the Alueim He creates it. Male and female He creates them" (Gen. 1:26a & 27).
So we see here the same thing we have already discussed with regards to the Greek aorist tense of verbs, as in "For God so lovED the world" versus "For thus God lovES the world." God’s love for the world CONTINUES! And creating man in God’s image also CONTINUES!
Lustful, carnal-minded, sinning, Adam and Eve were no more in the complete image of God at their physical creation than the Apostles were completely converted during the schooling under Christ’s teaching. It is all an ongoing process. We are even still being converted, and still being perfected, and still becoming more and more like God. How often I have heard preachers remark how Adam and Eve where in the very IMAGE OF GOD. THE TRUE IMAGE OF GOD DOES NOT SIN!
"For whom He did foreknow He also did predestinate TO BE conformed to the image of His Son…" (Rom. 8:29).
"And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we SHALL also bear the image of the heavenly" (I Cor. 15:49).
Presently, only Jesus Christ is the true "Image of God" (II Cor. 4:4).
george.