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Deborah-Leigh:
Ray shares with us that God started working on him in the following way.

But God was working with me.  I didn’t know it.  I just thought I’m drifting through life.  But God was working with me, for me, sometimes against me (which was also for me).  I finally did come to the place where I started looking at this whole thing afresh, that this is God doing it, and I’m thinking about this repentance business again.  What good does it do to repent, if you can’t stop doing the things you repented of?  I mean, that’s just hypocrisy isn’t it?  You repent of all these sins and you keep doing them.  So… but I felt a guilt, there was a guilt in doing this or that, thinking this and thinking that, and the guilt would start to drive me away from it.  I couldn’t handle the guilt.  I just didn’t want to be guilty about this stuff so I would stop doing it.  Because I just wanted to get away from the guilty mind.  And so some things went by the wayside that way; that was the way it worked.  You know, just out of sheer guilt I didn’t want to do them anymore.  And I didn’t do them anymore, I quit this and that and so on…  and I guess God was turning me towards Him.  I was not learning anything new; there were no new revelations.  Just something was happening in my life.  http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3709.0.html

 God started turning me towards Him when He showed me that escape from guilt was not going to be through the Catholic Confessional. After God showed me that I could not GET AWAY, I rapidly decended from guilt to futility, despair and hopelessness that took me into depression.

Looking back, I can laugh now because my final submission to the Catholic Church ended when in the Confessional I confessed that I could not stop sinning and that I was very sorry. The Priest told me he could not forgive me for that.   

Is God showing you anything regarding your life and experience with sin and guilt?

Arc

Amrhrasach:

--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 24, 2009, 06:06:14 PM ---
Is God showing you anything regarding your life and experience with sin and guilt?

Arc

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Hi Arc.  Answer: yes.

The most difficult thing for me to really grasp since being introduced to BT has been to understand that we are NOT our own commander in life.  I have read and re-read, and re-read, and listened to the myth of free-will repeatedly.  Only now is some of it sinking in, or synching in, and making a convincing argument that God is in charge.  This parlays over to the guilt area.  Reviewing life’s events, particularly rather disastrous meaningful ones, I’m only now pulling away from the routine and daily beating appointments of myself and realizing God has placed some of these circumstances, if not all, in the path for a greater purpose.  But it’s been a difficult assessment and learning curve.   As Ray has so expressly put in several papers, simply, when God is ready for us to move forward in the spiritual walk only then will it happen, be it to stop a routine particular sin, or removal of guilt, or a clearer understanding of his ways.   As Ray also says, paraphrased, sometimes the sin causes us to get sick and tired of the sin.  There are more than a few areas where I’m ready to be sick and tired of the sin.

Gary

Phil3:10:
Arcturus,
Yes! My prayer life is not at all what I would have it to be. I drift to easily and my focus is not what it should be. It is not very often that I can pray effectively but I do still sense that GOD is leading my life and I am not forcing myself in prayer.  I like what you said about  sinning and I have become more acceptable of my proclivity to sin in spite of my not wanting to sin.
As Gary said, I realize that I am not my own Commander in my life and am trying to rely on HIM who is all. Guilt and sin in my life does make for a lack of personal satisfaction in my walk with our LORD. However, I do feel HE has me where HE wants me right now. I am just anxious for HIM to move me to an higher level.
As Ray said sometimes guilt and our sin does lead us to that higher level. I try to make this my constant prayer.
In HIM,
Phil3:10

Robin:
God has always known me better than I know myself. He sees my filthy rags and still never leaves me. He doesn't let me get away even when I have so much shame I can't raise my head. He just continues to love and continues to drag me. It is his love and his forgiveness that allowed me to move past guilt. When I really understood that I am his work I was finally able to rest and stop beating myself to death.

Romans 8
37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Gary and Phil3:10

Is it not wonderful to see how God uniquely is changing us in a diverse and different way according to our individuality?

Just look at what is coming through for you Gary. The Myth of free will in reference to Guilt and you Phil3 your prayer life!

MG that is so great that God has caused you stop condemning yourself.

Arc

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