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Sin and Guilt
dogcombat:
Hi Arc,
I related a similar situation in this thread a while back
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8893.0.html
Ches
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Ches
What you observed in your post in that thread is so true and very well supported by the Teachings we have from Ray expounding the God is Sovereign.
Ches
--- Quote --- Hey Gang,
Right now, things are VERY tight financially for me right now. However, I feel led to write this question to all of you (especially you newbies), in light of Joe's thread about Jonah's Gourd.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8707.0.html
Have you had a JONAH MOMENT latley? Give this some thought.
Doesn't it appear that YOU are at a pont where nothing seems to go your way? As I think about the Gospel account of Jonah more and more, I'm starting to see (a bit clearer I might add) what that account means SPIRTUALLY for all of us. Remember that God called Jonah to preach to a corrupt Ninevah, and Jonah wanted no part of that. He tried to run away from his calling, but God had EVERYTHING under control. Preparing the Great Fish to swallow Jonah when he jump into the raging sea.
Someone I know was recently arrested back in September. I felt that the Lord had called me to write this person a letter informing him that God was in control of his situation. I didn't write the letter when the words were given to me. And I thought about it more when a project I was to be doing last month fell through. I did eventually write the letter, and things are STILL tight as my prospect seem to be dim. However, I now see that being in the belly of the fish, SYMBOLIZES a point of BROKENESS, and SURRENDER to what God had called me to do. He has me right where He wants me, and has the FINAL SAY on what happens from here.
In other words, what I wanted to do wasn't what He wanted me to do. Since EVERYTHING is on His APPOINTED time schedule. And what comes in His time WILL come. Not one milli-second sooner, not one nano-second later. The Lord knew Jonah would do EXACTLY what he did. And was merciful, to have brought Jonah to be able to fufill what he called to do. Not that it was easy or that Jonah necessarily liked it. But God's ways are NOT our ways, and until HE has brought to that point of surrender to His will we will feel like we're in the belly of a fish. Dark, dank, dreary, hopeless wishing (like Jonah) we were dead rather than stuck.
As you ponder this, think of a paper, email reply, or audio from Ray that has helped you understand your JONAH MOMENT.
Ches
--- End quote ---
As Ray says quote : If youcannot identify yourself, personally, with all the stories and accounts in the Old Testament, then you have not even begun to overcome all the carnality that you are. http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
Arc
judith collier:
Thanks Arcturus for starting this thread. Sometimes I feel like such a failure(and I am). And guilt, gosh!!!I need to accept my nasty little self and remember I am nothing and all good is of God. It sure is easy to pick up that perfection thingy and evaluating ourselves like we could actually become better without the Lord. Pride, I guess. Judy
Mando:
The thing about me falling into "the sin that so easily besets me" is that I fight so hard "NOT" to fall, but end up falling anyways. I feel like I'm blaspheming sometimes, I feel shame and I feel like beating myself up! I feel that I'm not worthy of even reading the bible, but then I remember so many scriptures telling me it's His faithfulness that keeps me in His love. I pray the LORD for EZK.36:26-27
in my life. Thank God that He will never leave me nor forsake me. One thing this does to me is that it grows a compassion for other sinners. I learn not to judge. I praise Him for that.
In His Love
Mando
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Judy
I agree it hurts. It really really hurts.
Don't you find also that when God is dealing with you and His Consuming Fire hits, that there is only the consuming fire and every thing else just is not there anymore. The good memories fade, the positive thinking evaporates, the carnal teachings of how to stay strong disappear and all there is, is pain. Then God lets up a bit but not too much and He squeezes out some real attitude towards Him that makes me ask Him things I could never dream of asking Him in my comfort zones of cozy unchallenged delights.
Those questions then are the real questions born of suffering and not lazy academic interst in God but real live suffering questions that only God can answer.
Hi Mando
God has once caused me to experience that my understanding is not my salvation. God showed me He can take that away and everything I know and even everything I think I know He can remove from me.
That Scripture is EXCELLENT. You can count on Him to perform it!
Arc
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